Memory transfer is a scifi technology. We have no idea how it could possibly be done. The workings of memory are almost completely a mystery.

More likely is finding a cure for aging using stem cell and other related technologies. We do have a fairly good idea of how aging happens. It is a combination of around 10 different processes that interact. There are possible cures for some of then be tested right now.

a copy of me still isn't living forever. That's just a copy

No. Nothing is forever. Even if you could solve all the problems eventually the Earth will become uninhabitable for you and you will die and even if you could survive that eventually the sun will go Nova die and even if you could survive that there will eventually be the heat death of the universe.

So no, forever is not possible.

Yeah. But forever is a long time. I'd settle for having the ability go out on my own terms.

What's stopping us? Other than not having the tech, a lot of what you think you are is tied down to the body. Easier to create AGI than upload minds. Both will be revolutionary.

Trick is to live long enough to stop aging. Then, to determine moving memories. That buys more time to figure out how to get off the planet, the solar system, figure out what comes after the universe dies and lastly what to do to transcend that. Buying decades at a time buys you forever.

Is consciousnesses just memories? If we cannot determine how consciousness is created, how could we transfer consciousness from one body/brain to another?

Most of the stuff I’ve read fails to address the problem of consciousness and postulates something that seems more like creating a copy rather than transferring “you” into another body.

It’s akin to the argument that the transporter in Star Trek kills the original and creates a duplicate at the other end.

Personally i don’t think we can guarantee someone will live FOREVER, but i do think the length of human life could be extended quite far with some innovations in biotech.

I’ve only scratched the surface by reading books like David Sinclair’s but would like to know more about the future potential innovations.

For what its worth i think its really important to ask these types of questions and push medical tech forward.

People deserve to meet their grandparents and great-grandparents.

The problem is that you could possibly lose out on the clone / upload metaphor. Would you know you're a clone? Also, there's more to memory than what's located in the brain. There is information stored in nerves, etc.

IIRC, jellyfish have a functional immortality. Maybe some technology could parlay off of that? You'd avoid the memory issue, because you're not dumping the original body. In that same note, there's also a function of your own body's telomeres, if you could cause them to not lose information when copied, and keep replenishing them so you don't run out, there would probably be something there, too.

Being immortal would suck so bad gosh I've just turned 40 and don't really want to think that I'm going to have to do this again. Just my opinion but life has gone on long enough.

You could always make your clone a video explaining everything they need to know and they could start watching it at certain times

I think I eventually be possible with memory chips and nano technology but wtf do I know? Ill be long gone before then. Great question though.

This will probably get lost in the comments. This Hardvard professor's research says we can and that he is able to do it already in small animals right now. Testing for humans is currently being done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nXop2lLDa4

Look at these garbage people a bunch of comments but only 4 up votes? Wtf. Let me be fucking real with you these people are the problem most people don't want to live forever good more air for me to enjoy at least I won't be rotting in the ground.

To answer your question yes it's possible I've been researching ways to live forever. There is scientists working on repairing DNA because it degrades over time. Some scientists have found a way to reverse aging but it's only in the very early stages. I want to become a super scientists and make an an "elixir" that could repair damage wounds because if you do live forever you don't want to live in pain do you.

Finally my thoughts. I love life it's fucked up full of pain and suffering but that makes all the good moments that much all the better because sure there are bad times but there are good times too. I want to make a super civilization where we can expand across the universe and humanity can thrive. The fact that most people don't want to live forever is also good more space for us that do want to. My dream is to find out what reality and the universe meaning and you know what even if it's means the universe has no meaning who cares it's still worth living.

I think we are a very long ways away from understanding the human mind still and even further from developing a way to “download” memories and personalities, and even if we were able to do that what’s to say the new mind with the uploaded information would process it the sane as the original brain. Clones may have the same DNA and physical traits, but how about creating the same neural connections?

Who knows though, maybe some day in the distant future, with enough research.

Is it possible? Yes.

Is it feasible anytime soon? No.

We will get to the point where we can upload our conscious to a cloud like thing. These can be built around red dwarfs that last for millions upon millions of years more than our own sun.

I mean it’s possible for us to reverse entropy for all we know. There’s no set yes or no rules to life, humanity has bent or removed nearly every rule in its path.

Time will tell like most things, we most likely won’t see this technology but maybe our children’s children will with the way things are going.

Living in a virtual world where you can be your own god or even a world where every need is met and you can do whatever you wish to do with those you love most.

Is it fair for those who came before you? Is it fair for you and your family to live together forever when billions upon billions of humans have died?

There’s a lot of maturing humanity needs before we even think about the possibility of eternal life. We are not prepared for that future or it’s problems.

You can’t upload consciousness. YOU are tied to your physical brain. Any upload would be a copy not YOU. It’s literally impossible. It will never happen.

Neither will immortality. Body systems are too interconnected to be tweaked in a way to results in immortality without causing other disease.

I think biological immortality is possible, meaning halting the aging process and people no longer dying of natural causes but living forever is impossible. I don’t think humans will ever leave the solar system and at some point our star is going to die

Y’all don’t realize memory transfer doesn’t mean “you” live forever. You’re not transferring yourself - it’s just another exact clone of you.

I’ve said this before - you can duplicate your memory elsewhere but just imagine you don’t die - you’re still watching your “other” self run amok but if you die then you still die.

You remind me of an Love Death + Robots episode where (rich) people live forever, resource is limited though so making new children is an forbidden act.

Yes, absolutely, we can live forever....we are in essence just information, and information can theoretically be preserved forever...

Cloning with memory transfer is not a way to live forever. It's just reproduction with extra steps.

And you miss out on sexual recombination of your genes.

I think the real question is would you really want to live forever?

The question is would you want to live forever, death sucks but, unless I was really good at business that I could manage to indefinitely make money on, there is no retiring plan that would survive that natural decay of nations/empires and I would just keep repeating the same hellish wage slave cycle.

Not anytime soon. The best we can hope right now is to create a clone of our brain that allows for an emulator to recreate a synthetic approximation who we are. But it isn’t “us”. We are our brain. As flawed and fragile as that organ is, it is what makes us who we are. We are still learning how they work. Barely can solve any brain damage issues. Let alone find ways to avoid the inevitable deterioration of the organ.

I think there's three ways to go about it:

Complete cell regeneration at full functionality. Think of our cells as batteries... When we're at the prime of our lives, they are regenerating back at 100%. As we get older, the battery wears down and that percentage starts to drop--giving us age related issues and appearance.

However if one were to fix this, I think cancer would be essentially cured, because that is when a cell of a certain area generates malignantly. That's also why cancer is more prominent in older people than young. Making it so cells continue to regenerate at perfection would eradicate cancer from the system completely.

The second, and what I think is the most unlikely, is the ship of Theseus method of replacing human parts for technological. We see people get new arms and legs all the time but those replacements have limited functionality and aren't really designed to be a true part of a person. People are looking more like techy pirates than the terminator or androids from DBZ. The biggest issue would be to create a working system that replicates the circulatory system and brain functionality. The human brain is so complex it will likely never be relocated, thus eliminating this as an option.

The third and most likely is the brain in a bar idea... A combination of psycho pass and inception. Essentially tricking the brain into believing time is moving at a much slower rate or creating a different reality perceived.

Let's say a brain can live up to 120 years max, that's really all anyone needs if they are hooked up to a machine that that tricks the brain into thinking every true hour the goes by is actually a lifetime in a false reality. If scientists can come up with a way to trick our brains into falsely perceiving time-- we could live a new life every "real day" our brains are hooked up. Now what if the technology gets better and we can live 1000 lives in a real day? Or an hour, or a minute. You get the idea. That could virtually be immorality.

As noted in the science fiction of Lois Bujold, a clone of you would be your however-many-years-delayed identical twin. If you had a perfect clone and let it grow to adulthood, it would be its own person. Either transplanting your brain into it, or overwriting its memories with yours in some way, would murder the second person it had grown up to be.

I don't see how we can't live forever once we figure out how to repair individual cells.

However all of our cells are replaced every 10 years or so. But how could it be possible that we still apparently have the same consciousness?

It's weird to me that people would except a clone as part of "living forever" but don't feel the same about having a child. Even passing your memory to a clone would still mean your death and the clone would live on not you. It only could be debatably you if the exact brain activity was transferred not copied and even then we don't know if that is the thing that makes you you. However a child is basically a clone of you made naturally. That being said I'm terrified of death and hope my conscience ness is able to be downloaded into a robot or something before my time ends.

Memory storage is not a soul its only the souls memory of this life

Unless all of the tech involved is 100% full proof I don't think you could ever live forever. Saves corrupt, clones can have imperfections and eventually the heat death of the universe will destroy everything

The first stage of memory storage will give rise to a new trend in naming.

From now on people with a number after their name will be clones that have watched/downloaded their previous iterations life.

One day these individuals will pool their collective inheritances to fund a more complete cloud based memory. Thus creating something of a hive mind.

From that point on any number of clones could be made based on an initial template and would carry that templates name while all things put into memory by any clone is uploaded to the shared mind.

All is one, one is all. We will have surpassed mortality.

No, if nothing else kills you the heat death of the universe will.

For me, yes, so far. I've been living since the very beginning consistently. I haven't even had any fake-out deaths.

Even if possible, it would never be accessible to the common person. Only the uber-rich will ever be able to afford it. I guarantee they will gatekeep the shit out of it.

Not to mention all the bootleg, snake oil salesmen that will come out of the woodwork if and when the news comes out that it actually works.

Yes, your meat puppet won’t, but your quantum field is eternal unless Humanity goes extinct. We are far more than we understand because we believe that our mind exists solely in our Brain, and this is incorrect. Our brain is the interface between our Mind and our Meat Puppet. It serve as a multifunction organ, but first and foremost it serves as a biological fuel cell where sugar is oxidized into "Dark Energy" as cosmologists call it now, and "Animal Energy, similar to, but not quite, electricity" as Galvani called it back in 1860. It’s also what psychiatrists and brain researchers measure with EEGs and PET scans; as do other biological scientists measuring energy out put of all living organisms.

Humanity’s greatest problem is trying to hang on to the past. We are an evolutionary creature in a transitional state between Animal and Creator. 10,000 years after the Human Superego formed and Humanity gained independent thought and the ability to create whatever we want, we still choose to create war and slavery for fun and profit. 10,000 years ago the first modern humans woke up to their own thoughts, no longer directed by Nature. We were an embryonic Singularity unto ourselves, with an instruction coded into the Superego everyone recognizes, “Be kind and take care of each other.” The next moment we went psychopathic and started an economy based in war and slavery. We’re just mean an selfish, that’s all there is to it. Psychopathic narcissism is the birth defect the human superego developed with, that we don’t recognize as a problem. We want to remain animals where we can enjoy the feeling of power that comes with exploiting human suffering. We don’t want to have the responsibility of Creators to provide for the future, we want to be animals where we only need to exploit what nature has created.

Under your plan you can exist until 9 billion minds exist, then your quantum field will collapse as the Human Superego goes extinct as an evolutionary failure. You see, there is a reason on the Quantum Physics end of our existence that we are taught we’re all part of something greater than ourselves, and we must unite to succeed. It takes 3 billion minds to come into harmony with the Prime Singularity we are born from, so our Superego comes into resonance and reaches its amplified state. That’s when the Superego becomes a fully formed Juvenile Singularity. With this we gain Quantum Self Awareness and an understanding of our true capabilities.

By searching for ways to preserve the past and making it work for us, we are only assuring our extinction. Had we followed our instruction we would have evolved 7000 years ago, had religion or revolution and the advance of technology worked, we would have evolved by the 1950s had we been healthy. But we are not, we are addicted to to the self destructive pleasures that psychopathic narcissism brings. Now that Science has also failed to get us to look to a non self destructive future, it’s really doubtful we choose the Hydrogen Economy and let go of the past, but if you want to live forever, that’s what you have to do for yourself, accept that you must cooperate of your own Free Will. Otherwise we have about 20 years to Full Term and our final failure of Quantum Kindergarten, "Couldn’t play nice" our epitaph.

If you upload your memory to hardware, you will still die. Your clone could live on but you wouldn’t know anything about it since you’d be dead.

What is conciousness? How does the brain generate conciousness? Find the answers to these first then perhaps you can one day transfer your conciousness.

In theory immortality is possible, yes, consider this, every single cell you are comes from the same cell every other known living thing comes, LUCA, in a way we just are just LUCA witch some changes that means that as far as we know cell division is unlimited.

So as long as we can prevent or fix any change or mutation and recode any natural oversight in our cells that prevents immortality it should be achievable as far as we know.

Anywho, it would be achievable on our biological body's.

You mentioned that cloning is possible. Ethically its really impossible if we're going to do it for a lot of people.

That is, until very recently. Theres actually a very new procedure where a person in need of a heart transplant can first transplant their own DNA into the pig's living heart using CRISPR, and then transplant the gene edited pig heart (or any organ likely) into their own body, and there will actually be a lower risk of organ rejection than in a human to human transplant. Essentially, its an ethical and superior form of organ transplantation that is really just emerging in the past year.

Still, that doesn't change what happens to the brain. I like your question because its a thought ive been stumped on for maybe 5 years now. I have an idea that i'll share for fun mostly. Here it is:

Cellular quantum beam implantation. We implant whole organs using a surgeons hands, scalpels, etc, but what future technology will trace its roots to today's organ transplantation? Cellular quantum beam implantation. The idea is very simple. Cut a hole in the human body using, say, a thin laser beam. Specifically, through the skull and into the brain. The laser beam is really multiple laser beams. The first part of the beam is basically just used as a highly accurate cellular radar. It's possible to map the individual cells in the skin, skull, and brain. Using that information, aim the second part of the laser beam, the high energy cutting mechanism, in key locations that allow for tunneling deep into the brain while producing as little damage as possible. The final component is slowly accelerating individual brain cells extracted from either a clone or gene edited mammal using a large particle accelerator. The living human brain is situated in the particle accelerators path. The tunnel cut into the brain is just large enough for the fresh young brain cell to be decelerated neatly into place, guided by the particle accelerator. A straight path isnt really neccessary, using perhaps a graphene thread/rod you could prod the cell into place from many angles and through many tunnels. (Rotate the brain). The cutting and mapping mechanism wouldnt neccessarily be a photon beam either, such as in a laser or radar, but might instead consist of some other quantum beam only possible in a particle accelerator. Sever the beam, and if the tunnel you cut into the brain was narrow enough, then no neurons should have been severed. The fresh young cell would hopefully grow into the place of the old cell in the same neuronal network. It might seem simpler to edit the genes of brain cells to prevent aging - but that might be impossible.

Anyway, its an idea in the beginning stages. I havent looked into those papers where people mess with brain organoids. But thats where i would start to try and understand how this could work. Im fairly confident the tunneling component of the surgery would work (and im also fairly confident it could be done in a way that no stitches are needed and that patients could have cells implanted at a rate of hundreds per second at least, im just not sure if the human brain would be okay with extracting old cells and having them replaced with young cells. Additionally, even if the brain could survive such a procedure without neurons being severed, how would the mind be affected? Would it be something like a lobotomy?

My answer is not well researched nor pure effort, but there is an anime called 'Astra lost in space' which does explore humans having their clones built out from their DNA, which, according to them will be a new body in case their original body gets damaged ( think swapping of internal organs).

But it does come with its consequences, rich people doing rich people stuff.

Only an opinion, so take this for what it’s worth.

Just answering your question: there is a fundamental flaw with thinking of our brain as a computer. It doesn’t really store memories the way we talk of it. There was a recent article in MSM that really deconstructed how terrible our current analogy is for conveying how little we know about how the brain works. So, I don’t think your idea would work until we actually figure out how human brains work, and can agree on a common definition of consciousness.

Let me see if I can find that article.

Edit: found it. The article is an OpEd, so usual disclaimers of bias apply. At the same time, the author really does a decent job of illustrating that be know that we know less now than we have ever known before about the mechanisms of the brain and consciousness, partly because we tend to desire a metaphor to explain the mechanizations to non-neuroscientists, which then becomes a reinforcing loop in a complex adaptive human system called “collective understanding”.

Then, adding on my own thoughts on top of a science based answer…

There is an arc to a person’s life. It’s not necessarily really linear, but has definite stages to it. This arc is largely developmental and psychological in natural. There comes a point in a person’s life where they are generally “done” with what they hoped to do, or have experienced/seen enough, or set up the legacy they intended such that they consider their life’s work done. I think the jury is out on how much physiology plays into this as a factor.

Finally, there is a food source challenge that would play into how many people can the earth sustain?

So, even if we could stop aging at some point, I’m not sure a lot of people would want to. Maybe a better approach to facing mortality is to stop being so bad at facing mortality? Our struggles with mortality seem to largely be a Western thing. IDKW Eastern cultures seem to be better at accepting the temporal nature of life. There may be a religious aspect.

This is just what comes to mind. Love reading many of the thoughtful responses.

We're about as close to memory transfers as we are to when Jesus was born. We know so little it's crazy that we can do the things that we currently do, most of the medical tech we know is learnt from the equivalent of throwing S#!t at a wall and seeing what sticks.

Flashbacks to that horrible brain transplant experiment. I'd we could stop our brain from aging, we could, in theory.

What was stopping Benjamin Franklin from making rocket engines? He knew about wood stoves, so the technology was “in the works” in his day.

Continuity / memory transfer is entirely speculative, as is the idea one could make a "wiped" clone. A realistic clone is just a time-shifted identical twin.

Treating aging doesn't violate any fundamental rules so it should be possible. It's just very complex with multiple different mechanisms.

This precisely sounds like San Junipero from Black Mirror series.

No. Even if complete memory transfer were possible consciousness is not. So say there were a clone of you walking around with all your implanted memories. An exact copy in every regard, it still wouldn’t be ‘you’ just a copy. So while it might be possible to have a very close version of yourself live on indefinitely in the distant future, it still won’t be you living on unless science can discover a way to transfer consciousness like what happens at the end of Chappie, or in the Altered Carbon universe.

I read an article that DNA is the next best medium for data storage so, I definitely think a form of immortality will be possible sooner than we think.

But the ethical ramifications will probably stall progress.

Better question. Is it your memories that make you, you. Or is it your soul?

A clone would be a unique human being. To replace its mind would be murder.

Yes, genes alter their behaviour and that why we age. How do they that? Via detection of accumulated chemicals or presence thereof in the human body.

Eliminate the chemicals and the genes will not be activated. Or change the functionally of genes (genes editing), too dangerous.

I think it's important to define what a human is first. Is our body of flesh really what defines us? Or is it just our consciousness? If our consciousness was uploaded to a computer for example, would we be immortal? Is a clone or even transfer of our consciousness really "us", or is it a new life now?

Turritopsis dohrnii, also known as the immortal jellyfish, is a species of small, biologically immortal jellyfish[2][3] found worldwide in temperate to tropic waters. It is one of the few known cases of animals capable of reverting completely to a sexually immature, colonial stage after having reached sexual maturity as a solitary individual. Others include the jellyfish Laodicea undulata[4] and species of the genus Aurelia.[5]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii

https://www.bbcearth.com/news/the-jellyfish-that-never-dies

Telomere length shortens with age. Progressive shortening of telomeres leads to senescence, apoptosis, or oncogenic transformation of somatic cells, affecting the health and lifespan of an individual. Shorter telomeres have been associated with increased incidence of diseases and poor survival.

The rate of telomere shortening can be either increased or decreased by specific lifestyle factors. Better choice of diet and activities has great potential to reduce the rate of telomere shortening or at least prevent excessive telomere attrition, leading to delayed onset of age-associated diseases and increased lifespan. This review highlights the role of telomeres in aging and describes the lifestyle factors which may affect telomeres, human health, and aging.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3370421/#:~:text=Telomere%20length%20shortens%20with%20age,of%20diseases%20and%20poor%20survival.

The Egyptians believed that we have 3 deaths, once we die, the second when everyone who knew you in life dies and finally when your name is mentioned for the last time

But I'm sure you mean biologically, maybe. When one hopes for immortality, the better postulation is why? Unless you can live in a body you want to, not much point in being immortal.

live forever

Memory storage wouldn’t make you live forever. It would be just your copy, but you would still die when your brain dies. Find a way to make brain immortal and then we can talk about actual immortality. Our best chances are in field of longevity and age reversal, forget all this mind uploading bs.

I don't think our Brain works like a Computer's C: Drive with our current understanding. There's so much more to it that we have yet to grasp.

However, I wonder if Genes have more of an impact given that bodily memory is something we do kinda pass onto future gens don't we?

Honestly, i think it will eventually come from contact with an alien race. We are essentially energy that eventually transfers itself to the ground when we die. We need to become vessels of untransferable energy, like a spacefaring species probably would be. They could show us how maybe.

I don’t think fucking around with memory is something we have any clue about, but we do understand a good amount about how aging works, and we have ways of slowing it down, though they aren’t pleasant. I believe this video can provide a little more insight into what we currently understand about the aging process:

"Forever" is an abstract concept relative to the state of the universe. Nobody can "live" forever in our current state of being. One might eventually become immortal in the sense of perpetual existence dictated by the length of time the universe is stable and through various modes of storing consciousness.

Much of the answers to this question must come with additional definitions to the context and concepts of how we determine aspects to existence. What do we consider "living"? What is immortality to us? Can we can transfer and/or copy our consciousness into other states? How will our evolution be dictated?

Philosophically, yeah kinda. It also looks like technology is headed that way. The big issue is the end of the universe, but assuming we make it that long we may be satisfied with that, or we may have a way to cross into another dimension. We don't even know if the universe will end yet, so that's all too early for anyone to say.

What I want to give you guys is a nice solution to the stargate problem. The problem, if you haven't heard, is about how when you step through a stargate/teleporter and get picked apart, then reassembled on the other side, did you really survive? Are you just your atoms in a certain order, or are you also the cloud of electricity in your brain? I believe in the electricity being what meaningfully makes you concious. So to be transfered into any new body or device, it would have to happen without being ran through a blender. The solution is to in some way attach your brain to a another brain or brain-like thing, then with time let it become part of you, and later in time you begin phasing out parts of your original brain, leaving only the new brain/device. This way we have transfered consciousness without abrupt ends to it.

Sorry for the schizo vibes, I just didn't want to put so much effort into the post so I wrote it in one go.

I mean, even if we manage to find a way to upload/download memories, we currently have no way of knowing whether the receiving brain will even be the same person, or even have the same thought processes and behaviors.

I am extremely under qualified to explain neural processes, but from my understanding, memories are stored and retrieved through neurons physically forming synapses. Additionally, like our fingerprints, the anatomy of our brains is unique to each individual, which further complicates any physical processes through which we could force a brain to "remember" artificially stored memories. Theoritically, through the right stimulus, you could coerce a brain make memories, but since each brain is anatomically different, there is no guarantee that the memories would be the same, or even stored in the same manner, or place. Heck, the receiving brain may have its own ego and be a unique individual altogether with the ability to just recall the memories that were injected into it. There is currently no way of knowing what will happen until it actually happens.

This is so far beyond anything we are remotely capable of. Anything is possible given enough time I suppose but definitely not in our great grandkids lifetimes.

I wonder if immortality becomes possible would people end up going insane after a few hundred years. Part of our fundamental identity is formed by the age we are born into. Imagine society changing so drastically that we are not unable to adapt but unwilling to adapt because the change is so startling to our core identity.

Depends on your religion and whether or not it's right.

We don't really know what consciousness is, or what "keeps that chain going" so to speak ... But, as for transferring our brain's contents it would just be a matter of data fidelity... Weather or not that would be "you" or not is a different story that I don't think we are prepared to figure out yet

Like the new avatar we could only prob accomplish a copy. Simply a clone of yourself

Theoretically speaking, maybe...in the form of digital immortality though:

Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell ~ Can You Upload Your Mind & Live Forever?

There's so much more untapped areas in human brain and genes. Our tech direction is certainly heading towards getting our consciousness/mind/memory uploaded/downloaded into a different carrier. For now just too soon to say this yet. In 50 years maybe?

I wouldn’t want to live forever. Maybe 300 years in my form rn but I wouldn’t wanna live to see literally a black hole swallow the earth

I honestly don’t believe the idea of immortality is up to debate at this point. It’s basically a guarantee.

Think about the human body. Eventually, every single organ (besides the brain) will be able to be artificially made or at the very least, taken from another similarly built animal (like pigs) to be transplanted into us if we need a back up organ.

We have creams, lotions, and moisturizers that are a step in the right directions in knowing what works in keeping the skin tight and smooth. Eventually, our tap water will literally be the fountain of youth, caking us in the chemicals needed to keep our skin youthful every morning when we go to take a shower.

Ideally at this point of total organ replication (excluding the brain) and skin rejuvenation, we would also be able to cure/eradicate all cancers and diseases.

The only issue that I believe will be the hardest to solve is the brain. The one thing that truly makes us all unique. Once we can reverse the process of dendrite-degradation, which is what increases the chances of diseases like Alzheimers and dementia, then we can really be immortal.

Aging at every level of the human body can be stalled. It’s just going to take a long time to get there.

[removed]

Didn’t Queen sing it best?

“Who wants to live forever?”

But on a real note, memory storage isn’t forever. We may think of it as forever. But tapes stored under ideal conditions only last 20 or so years without degradation.

The same goes for many of the things we would think of as possible routes towards eternal life. They all decay relatively quickly (200-500) years of max viability under ideal conditions.

You up the conditions and the time table quickly degrades.

[removed]

I don’t know if I’d want to live forever and if someone could live forever how would they no because there’s no finish line it never ends

[removed]

Everyone here just completely accepts the statement “cloning been proven to work”. Cloning is decades if not centuries away from being perfected. The human body will reject organs from “regular donors”, cloning is as much of a fallacy as “memory storage”

I've always thought about this since I was like 7, back in 2010. Which is a young age to think, but I've always said to myself "What if we don't die and we just get put into some type of ai or robot that'll make us live forever?" And how everything's seeming to turn out for the future, maybe it's possible😂

I'm pushing 18000 years at this point... Figure your shit out peeps...

I can tell you right now that short of some metaphysical existence promised by religions that lies outside the plane of the mortal coil, it is not possible to live forever. I'm not saying we can't copy a conscience some day and through an overlay AI create something like eternal life. But even then, that can't last forever. Everything in the universe is finite, eventually energy will cease to exist to allow the AI to thrive. Hell, we can't even get a long term archiving process down, imagine an AI personality sitting in some dusty storage locker for thousands of years because 50 years after it was created, there weren't any terminals left to plug it jnto and allow it run, a la beta tapes.

We could transfer the AI between mediums, but then we are just making back up to the original, at what point do we say the original person who has been copied and transfered thousands of times over a million or so years is no longer the same person?

Also you need to clnsidder this, the AI would be replicated on a person who once lived for maybe 85 years, but the AI exists for thousands if not a million years, did the original person ever exist? Especially when the experiences and memories of the AI out number the progenitor 100:1, 1,000:1 or 10,000:1

Finnally who's going to keep the AI updated? The AI? Probably, it's funny, 100 million years from now, all that may remain of humanity would be the decendants of our AI overlays who for eons diligently copied and transfered the personalities of an extinct species from a planted that long since burnt to a crisp, and through that time those personalities too faded sending new AI overlays, shadows of themselves and hardly recognizable to the progenitors.

And like I said in the beginning, even if your AI decendants could make it to the end of the universe, eventually there won't be enough energy left to keep their circuits or whatever passes as information devices operational. Yes 10s of billions of years down the line in the darkness of space, of our decendants can even recall a time there were stars in the night skies, maybe somewhere in the recesses of their memory banks a floating sensation that can be remembered as warmth once felt by the progenitors will be their last conscious understanding as they too find their demise as everything else had done before and will do until the universe itself fades away.

So.... no its not possible to live forever

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

Bro we don't know how consciousness or memory even work. If anything like that becomes possible it will be 100s if not 1000s of years away. We will destroy the planet first. I get why you're hopeful for this but you are going to die and you just have to get used to that fact.

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

This is a terrifying thought for me. I don’t want to live forever. Gotta let go of the past to make way for the future. I am slowly becoming the past, and I’m okay with that.

[removed]

Isn’t all this just based on humans being afraid of dying or getting too old to enjoy future technology? Why do scared to die when it’s natural? Might even feel ‘right’ to die since it is a must and all that have come before us have done it.

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

You already have this ability. It's called... breeding. Fucking huma s are always so selfish. Your bio casing can barely make it 60 years. Sheeeesh!

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

[removed]

WHY would anyone want to live forever…there is a reason we expire, along with everything else living

I think any form of transfer creates other being, the concept of "me" requieres continuity

[removed]

[removed]

The other issue is random events: meteors, strokes, and murders. If you didn't age at all, you would still die eventually due to random events.

You live forever through your children. They are literally clones of you and everything you will ever become in the future.

Simply no we can't.maybe we could figure out some ways to live longer but we can't be immortals.in fact being mortal is what gives life meaning because if we live forever what is the point of doing anything.