Submitted by ctkyle t3_11tcrof in Connecticut
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[deleted] t1_jcjy2bv wrote
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mkt853 t1_jcjzkjs wrote
These are the same dumb arguments that go on at the federal level. This is nothing new and we've all seen this movie before. We can't continually live in fear that some group of richie rich types are gonna pick up and go live in some non-existent utopia where the quality of life is super high and taxes super low. If someone finds such a place, please let me know. Ironically the people that whine about this the most are those that don't have a pot to piss in - gotta carry that water for and be loyal to the top 1% and the corporations for they will surely reward you, Joe Q. Littleguy!
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mkt853 t1_jck58i3 wrote
It isn't the "other guy." Every single person in the state pays taxes in one way or another. Cheery picking income taxes while ignoring all other revenue and who contributes to it is someone not arguing in good faith. The talking points are always structured exactly the same way and don't even try to hide the real message: we need lower taxes for the super rich and corporations. Only dumb people fall for this s*it.
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mkt853 t1_jck7x4x wrote
The people that benefit most from society and "the system" get to pay more in taxes for that privilege. That's just how it works in a progressive tax system. Most of the state's revenue comes from income and sales/use tax. In the 2021-22 fiscal year, the state took in $12B in income tax and $6B in sales tax which combined made up 72% of all revenue. Is it poor people or rich people that pay the bulk of that $6B in sales tax that accounts for nearly one quarter of the state's revenue? If anyone cares you can read all about it here: https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DRS/Research/annualreport/DRS-FY22-Annual-Report.pdf
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mkt853 t1_jckf3xz wrote
The original argument was that poor people don't pay taxes. I am refuting that because it is simply not true. That's all that is happening here. OP wanted to peddle their right wing propaganda, and I am calling them out on it. The entire argument is literally what gets put out daily by conservative "think tanks" and "study committees" funded by the top 0.01%, and Americans, bless their hearts, happily eat it up.
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mkt853 t1_jckktrp wrote
You don't argue the point on the basis of income tax exclusively unless you have an agenda to push. Maybe you aren't in the loop, but it's almost word for word what gets pumped out daily by every Koch funded group. You see the same s*it here, on Facebook, in the media, so yeah, by that definition it doesn't seem "radical" because "everyone is saying it." The script almost writes itself: "I was recently in Ohio, and a big man, strong man, worked on the railroad his whole life and you could see it you know what I mean, came up to me, tears in his eyes, and said Mr. Trump I've lost everything and I don't have much, but please take more of my money so that income taxes are more fair because it's just so sad what we're doing to the rich people in this country treating them like dogs."
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FTLast t1_jck7dlh wrote
Rich people are always going to want to have houses on the water down by NYC, so they can live the life of leisure and zip into the City for shopping and dining. Even if they "leave" the state, they'll just spend 6 months and a day down in Florida and come back to their Greenwich property.
I've always thought the best solution is a property tax on houses over some value- an Estate tax, if you will.
[deleted] t1_jckzm9e wrote
If you can live in affluent area of CT you generally have PLENTY of choice in where to live given how much it costs.
CT is a pretty awful state to be young and entry level in if you work in the state. Not to say theres NO jobs, ive done it, but really, young people leave for more opportunity elsewhere if they can. And I say this with alot of love for CT. There's just not alot going on for a new generation entering the workforce and it's expensive.
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Mobile-Animal-649 t1_jckdt7q wrote
That’s the other side of the river from me No worries Lol
IndicationOver t1_jckxf09 wrote
If I was rich I would only live in CT, NY, or CA
2SLGBTQIA t1_jck40tr wrote
It won't make them leave, they've already left lol, all our businesses are legit gone
Hinken1815 t1_jckanor wrote
There's no businesses in CT at all? Every last one??? WHAT ABOUT MY JOB? NO ONE CALLED ME!!
2SLGBTQIA t1_jckckqs wrote
Oh haha, good one
[deleted] t1_jckyx7v wrote
Rich people don't work in CT, they go to New York or work remote. If wealthy people leave the state there not taking local CT jobs with them lol they didn't make em and they don't work em
volanger t1_jckcb9s wrote
Yeah that's not remotely true
2SLGBTQIA t1_jckcp25 wrote
It's not even controversial, you're arguing against a very commonly known problem lol. CT has been losing business for decades
volanger t1_jckculg wrote
Gotta a citation?
volanger t1_jckgru7 wrote
Ct ain't the best for business, but it makes up for it in several ways. I don't think we should become slaves that bow to the wishes of corporations. And a lot of those mention that it's headquarters that are leaving, which isn't a lot of jobs. Manufacturing jobs don't appear to be leaving from what your articles are saying. And there's lots of growth in small businesses in the state. If we want to thrive we be trying to bring in green tech businesses (cause they are booming), and other high education jobs, which offer high wages.
But corporate headquarters, not overly concerned since a lot of them like to go to nyc, but live in ct.
Viceversa10 t1_jcjoum7 wrote
They'll just leave anyway 😂
Jawaka99 t1_jcieemm wrote
Of course they're having meetings to determine just how much they can bleed from residents before they revolt. They want to drain every last possible drop. That's the Democrat way.
Prestigious_Bobcat29 t1_jcjr8ss wrote
Who let you out of The Day comment section Chris?
mkt853 t1_jcijsi3 wrote
Make no mistake, any tax rate above 0.0% is too much for the rich.