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shredsickpow t1_iw4prh0 wrote

No you did not. I worked at Milwaukee as a product designer from 2007-2009 and the hand tools were just starting in the early development / ideation sketches . Those came on the market in maybe 2010-12 somewhere at the oldest.

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texansfan t1_iw4q3x8 wrote

Lol, so OP is off by at least 7 years?

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shredsickpow t1_iw4q734 wrote

Yup. We didn’t even start w snippers

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G05TheBox t1_iw4rcjh wrote

Aviation snips and midwest-channellock body châssis from Milwaukee soon? 😇 3 blade crimpers.

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VisualKeiKei t1_iw4u8x1 wrote

I'd suggest Klenk for OG aviation snips. Stahlwille, Gedore, or Hazet snips if you're really burning to buy once, cry once.

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G05TheBox t1_iw4usrd wrote

Thanks for the reply, never heard of any of those 👍 stock with wiss snips/Lenox crimper at the moment hehe.

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VisualKeiKei t1_iw4v2d2 wrote

Klenk and Midwest Snip are some of the OG American snips. The others I mentioned get you into the (painfully priced) world of German tools.

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F-21 t1_iw638st wrote

Those are very likely not made by those brands. Hazet, Stahlwille and Gedore sell top end tools, but they mainly focus on manufacturing those basic forged handtools like the sockets and wrenches, a lot of other stuff is rebranded from other more niche brands.

I think Knipex does not make them either.

The most well known top end snips from Germany are made by Bessey and it is very likely they supply them to those top brands (Hazet, Gedore and Stahlwille). NWS also makes them.

Buying Bessey snips is cheaper than buying Hazet, even if they're the same just different branding...

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G05TheBox t1_iw6tn0o wrote

Malco and Knipex, only high end tools I can actually touch in a store lol. Hilti also at Home Depot lol.

I hear back in they days (from How it's made, best show ever en passant!) that Mastercraft Maximum wrench key were produce in the same shop as Mac Tools! 🤫🤥

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G05TheBox t1_iw4vaou wrote

European, one of my teachers was always hard on European tools lol heard of the Klein Tools snips?

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madmax_br5 OP t1_iw53fny wrote

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I definitely bought these long before I moved cross-country in 2011, Since I used them extensively on a loft buildout in 2010. Of that I can be sure. So it's possible I bought them in 2010 and got them confused with a previous pair I purchased earlier.

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GreyHexagon t1_iw6h9ws wrote

What's with the mismatched handles? Could it be that they're not actually Milwaukee, but that handle was replaced at some point?

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sideboobdaily t1_iw6qbuw wrote

I have the same pair, that's just how they look. Red handles for right snips, green for lefts, yellow for straights, bulldogs got red and yellow or sometimes I've seen blue

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leafdisk t1_iw6hu6h wrote

Looks like Milwaukee and Stanley Frankensteined together

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andre3kthegiant t1_iw578q7 wrote

These seem to have the smallest “beak” of all the snips I have seen. What is the true name of this model?

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UnintentionalIdiot t1_iw5o7fv wrote

These are bulldog snips. Better for cutting thicker material. In the hvac industry you’d use these to cut through seams of ductwork where there’s multiple layers, or heavy gauge slip and drive which are used to connect and hang ductwork. They’re good for their purpose, but not great for making long cuts because they’re short. So good short cutters get good leverage for strong short cuts

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andre3kthegiant t1_iw5pe5p wrote

would it make quick work if a 316-SS hose clamp?

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cloaker1308 t1_iw6uti1 wrote

Absolutely! Not the person you were replying to before but I've used these exact style of snip for that exact thing and yes they will cut right through it!

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riffdex t1_iwlcs3w wrote

What do you use these snips for?

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ThatDarnScat t1_iw55kwb wrote

Just want to give you props. Milwaukee makes some legit good stuff that (a lot of) is made in the US. I took a lean manufacturing workshop with a couple of guys from the Greenwood facility (Sawzall blades) and got to hear about the fab and heat treat process.

Good stuff

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F-21 t1_iw64lh2 wrote

I just don't like the style they go for with any plastic hand tools. The wrenches and the socket set looks really nice though.

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timmycosh t1_iw698gi wrote

Would you really trust a handyman who uses straight snips though? Honestly

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adventure_dog t1_iw733am wrote

i'd expect them to have the left and right ones as well, each one does best at it's own job

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groovy604 t1_iw5e0x0 wrote

Yeah what like Milwaukee didn't even have its lithium ion line out yet, never mind any real hand tools

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handen t1_iw5la5i wrote

Yeah, Milwaukee hadn’t even birthed its prodigal son Alice Cooper yet, and OP claims to have owned these shears in advance of Billion Dollar Babies? Un-freaking-believable.

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Cibico99 t1_iw6slly wrote

Looks like Milwaukee and Dewalt grips slid over some other pliers.

Someone, potentially before OP, replaced the warn grips.

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DrBucket t1_iw7pkpf wrote

I was gonna say, I don't remember this style being like that back then.

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5spd4wd t1_iw45j6u wrote

They could use a good wipe-down with CLR. And then oiling the screws.

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stedun t1_iw6ufbg wrote

Does CLR really remove rust from tools? I’m in Florida and even my dry tools I. The garage get rusty just from humidity.

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5spd4wd t1_iw7x43c wrote

CLR can remove rust from metal (and other subtrates), but if the metal has corrosion that's eating into the mteal it can't repair that.

My city has tap water that leaves a crusty residue over a time, a fairly short time. I use CLR-soaked paper towels and lay them firmly on the surface of my porcelain & stainless sinks as well as around the fixture.

I also use CLR and a pumice stone to remove the toilet bowl hard water deposit ring.

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stedun t1_iw8xzjf wrote

Thanks I’m going to give it a try

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EnragedEmu t1_iw4uk8u wrote

I prefer Wiss. Cheap, easy to find, made in US. Owned buy Crescent, which is still an American company. But also, yeah. Milwaukee didn't do hand tools back in 05

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__Snafu__ t1_iy1z1xx wrote

Do yourself a favor and get a pair of klein snips...

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BloodyLlama t1_iw4q5zu wrote

I've got 50+ year old snips of unknown origin that are just as good as a new pair. I think the design requirements of tin snips makes them quite durable if the hinge mechanism doesn't get too sloppy.

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spooney t1_iw4rozu wrote

If you cut a lot of tin those are trash. Real buy it for life snips would be Midwest or the old Prosnips(RIP) from before Irwin bought them out.

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crclOv9 t1_iw5ft5y wrote

I’ve got three years into my $20 Milwaukee red snips; gotta replace them in about another year I’d say; they are my favorite on the budget side of things.

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VisualKeiKei t1_iw4ueza wrote

Klenk as well on that list unless they've gone downhill like Wiss.

Stahlwille, Gedore, or Hazet snips if you have cash to burn.

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sayracer t1_iw5mk80 wrote

$234 for Stahlwille??????I'm not stranger to paying a premium for tools but this is absurd. I'm a Tinknocker. There's nothing you can do to stop stainless from bearing up snip blades

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F-21 t1_iw651yv wrote

They're 60-70€ here in Europe.

I don't know if Stahlwille, Hazet or Gedore really make them anyway. Bessey is the German manufacturer known for such snips, and NWS also makes them. It's likely the other brands get some of those and have them rebranded (but I'm not 100%...). For many tools, the niche manufacturers are the best. Hazet, Gedore and Stahlwille do manufacture their own stuff, especially sockets and wrenches, but they rebrand lots of stuff like Screwdrivers (I think both Hazet and Gedore supply them from Oplast, while Stahlwille might get them from Witte).

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BusLandBoat t1_iw4g9x4 wrote

Milwaukee makes some seriously good quality stuff.

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vitimilocity t1_iw4ldmq wrote

I've had their pair of left and right cutters. Probably a defect but it was disappointing to see it snap on the blade with the 2nd cut.

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diegobomber t1_iw682w2 wrote

Milwaukee hand tools aren’t known for their quality, interesting those held up so long.

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madmax_br5 OP t1_iw79xkp wrote

Evidently this pair was one of the first to roll off the line; it’s possible they’ve cheapened them over time to save cost. I’m also surprised how long they lasted!

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drive2fast t1_iw77i66 wrote

Milfuckee makes great cordless tools (my industrial contracting shop is mostly red) but most of their hand tools and especially their cutting tools like blades / bits are fucking garbage.

Project Farm on youtube proves this again and again. He does exceptionally well thought out tests and their tools perform poorly most every time.

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madmax_br5 OP t1_iw7a5vq wrote

I thought their screw bits actually tested very well in project farm? but yes, definitely a “do your research” brand for hand tools

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NightofTheLivingZed t1_iw8tupg wrote

You say milfuckee, but I work in tool rental/repair and all I ever see is Rigid coming in for repairs, and I live in Wisconsin, where literally everyone buys Milwaukee.

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drive2fast t1_iw8vwhc wrote

Same parent company.

But I did say that I buy the red cordless tools for my contracting company. They are mostly amazing, save for the 3-4 year old trash grade brushless onekey drills (top end models, bad chucks, weak bodies) and the new 1/2” impact wrenches that keep exploding. I’m so glad I bought the last gen impact.

Did you see the inside of the 1/2” impact failures yet? They removed 1/2 of the support on the planetary gearset so it just shears all the pins. It looks like they let a first year engineer go crazy with cost cutting inside there. Even the best companies make stupid decisions now and then.

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kdogmizzle5191 t1_iw52q5x wrote

I had the same pair for like 5 years. I've cut through lots of joist hangers and all sorts of crap before they died on me.

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antihero12 t1_iw6c01h wrote

The color coding makes it look like half Milwaukee, half DeWalt

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kb31ne t1_iw7a81r wrote

Aren’t they Chinese also?

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__Snafu__ t1_iy1yuhu wrote

meh. Klein tin snips are where it's at...

try the kleins...

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bigpenguin55 t1_iw5a5zz wrote

I have a pair of lefts and rights of these that I use every day, I will never give them up cause the new handle design of the Milwaukee’s isn’t as good imo

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HisokasBitchGon t1_iw5nxf2 wrote

milwuakee used to have good hand tools... now they only focus on power tools that last 1 year since purchase

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tangerinedream555 t1_iw678d1 wrote

I can tell you tool bought from Ace hardware with the Ace Hardware brand on it will go too dull to do anything useful within 3-4 uses.

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Arcansis t1_iw821hh wrote

Aviation straight shears, the most useless type of shears to exist. Those end up in the garbage. Offset shears are where it’s at. If you do any real tin work, yellow handled shears do not belong in your tool box.

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