tkyjonathan
tkyjonathan t1_j0ulvsx wrote
Reply to Renewable energy covers South Australia's electricity needs for a week by FromTheAshesOfTheOld
Good for Australia. Meanwhile, Europe has a wind drought and never had much sun to begin with.
tkyjonathan t1_ixvnitl wrote
Reply to comment by SilverNicktail in U.S. Renewable Energy Will Surge Past Coal and Nuclear by Year’s End by VanillaSwimming5699
> Fuckin' WHOOPS. I'll forgive you, though. You're new to this whole "evidence" thing. You didn't realise that you have to actually read and understand your sources. Next!
I forgot I was talking to someone with no understanding of energy economics.
Energy is very much tied to GDP. While Denmark and Germany do tax energy sources and use them the reinvest in renewables (your preference for energy policies), it does result in "energy poverty" and that is extremely harmful to the people who have to make decisions between heat and food.
Why is this important to price of renewables? Well, they have failed to replace baseline energy sources and germany is closing business sectors due to high energy costs https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-07/german-aluminum-smelter-halves-output-on-soaring-energy-costs
As a result, germany is actually closing down wind farms and opening coal mines
https://balkangreenenergynews.com/wind-farm-in-germany-is-being-dismantled-to-expand-coal-mine/
So in general, yeah, you can make your population suffer while you follow green energy policies that hurt that population some more. Its a political and ideological decision.
tkyjonathan t1_ixu0fgd wrote
Reply to comment by SilverNicktail in U.S. Renewable Energy Will Surge Past Coal and Nuclear by Year’s End by VanillaSwimming5699
> You're fucking hilarious, mate. Do another one.
You must be mentally challenged. All your arguments are smears about me working for or helping rich and powerful companies. This is an argument from intimidation, plain and simple.
Some links for you, because you seem to like to find "counter narrative" facts to reality:
China to dominate 95% of solar panel supply chain https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/energy/china-to-dominate-95-of-solar-panel-supply-chain-83651#:~:text=China%20currently%20manufactures%20and%20supplies,Agency%20(IEA)%20has%20said.&text=Based%20on%20the%20current%20expansion,entire%20manufacturing%20process%20by%202025.
Denmark and Germany have the highest energy prices in Europe (graph included) http://www.keanegruending.com/climate-policy/denmarks-race-to-renewable-electricity-how-costly-and-environmentally-efficient/
Renewables use NG as a backup for when the sun doesnt shine and the wind doesnt blow, making dependence on it higher. This is a key driving factor for energy poverty (and inflation) in Europe.
https://www.statsjamie.co.uk/high-energy-prices/
https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/why-cant-renewable-energy-sources-keep-uk-energy-prices-down/
https://greenworld.org.uk/article/energy-crisis-why-are-renewable-prices-rising-too
European Windfarm and Solar companies are going out of business, because renewables are too expensive and unprofitable. https://stopthesethings.com/2022/04/24/transition-to-bankruptcy-europes-wind-turbine-makers-face-massive-financial-collapse/
As you can see, a large part of inflation in europe is energy related and I already mentioned dependance on NG partially due to renewables. https://www.oecd.org/sdd/prices-ppp/statistical-insights-why-is-inflation-so-high-now-in-the-largest-oecd-economies-a-statistical-analysis.htm
tkyjonathan t1_ixsdaj4 wrote
Reply to comment by SilverNicktail in U.S. Renewable Energy Will Surge Past Coal and Nuclear by Year’s End by VanillaSwimming5699
> Didn't do either of those things
You did it in your last comment and even in this comment. You don't even notice that you are smearing? You are basically just making an argument from intimidation.
> And do you have any figures showing that costs outside LCOE are higher enough for renewables that it offsets the higher costs of fossil fuel generation?
Yes, I gave you 3 countries with large unreliable infrastructure as a point of reference to high energy costs. If you want to compare, take any eastern european country that still largely runs on coal and compare energy costs.
> You know what doesn't need unreliable fuel supply from hostile nations? The sun.
Except the concrete, nickel, copper, lithium and a variety of rare earth minerals. All mined in China. Where solar panels are almost exclusively made, because the process is so toxic, it fails western standards. That then needs to be connected to the grid through new lines running through people's back yards or forested areas. That then need 100% backup power when the sun isnt shining - so double the costs just on the backup. And if you want batteries, then the cost is already x3-4 higher than fossil fuels. Not to mention that large batteries catch on fire when over heated... etc... etc.. etc..
tkyjonathan t1_ixs42ha wrote
Reply to comment by SilverNicktail in U.S. Renewable Energy Will Surge Past Coal and Nuclear by Year’s End by VanillaSwimming5699
Ah goodie. I always like it when people smear and name call in the conversation. That way you know their argument is weak.
LCOE fails to factor a lot of the additional costs of unreliable energy sources that is the burdened onto the grid. The fact of the matter is that any large scale installation of unreliable energy sources increases the overall price of energy. For example, (even before 2022) Germany, Denmark and California.
tkyjonathan t1_ixngrvv wrote
Reply to U.S. Renewable Energy Will Surge Past Coal and Nuclear by Year’s End by VanillaSwimming5699
Probably and so will blackouts and super high energy bills.
tkyjonathan t1_jaepp95 wrote
Reply to Britain breaks 'green grid' record with latest 100 per cent clean power milestone by m_Pony
Then why is our energy prices x5 more expensive than 2 years ago and expected to go up to x10-15?