>Ya don't worry about this, I'm up for discussion about this as deep as you need to go. It's critical we start to understand the stock market is not what it was supposed to be, or agreed to midway, and the end stages are just superman3/office space skimming and manipulation combinations that are decimating the retail investor

Anti Evil reddit deleted this on me... StupiD words.
" It is true that they don't bring your order to market, but they also don't bring their own inversion. They also do this at your discretion, not theirs."
No they don't, they use the inversion of someone else's trade that hasn't settled yet either buy or sell. They own both sides of a full trade internalized.
"When they choose to bring your order to market, yes, the market moves, but they also must still realize a loss if they are in the red. "Losing a current trade in this market is akin to losing a single soldier in the battle. It's irrelevant as it's volume that is important. Every purchase and sell by an individual internalized is an up and down movement they can further utilize. All this done by algos. They'll on purpose lose thousands of trades to WIN a hedge/derivative betting against those trades they used. The individual trades are pawns. Again all ago's. all attached.
"Internalization doesn't give them the ability to manipulate the market in their favor. What they gain is the elimination of slippage. You can also benefit from this through reduced volatility on the open market. You can trade with narrower stops and profit targets."Yes although true for eliminating slippage, you forget that internalizing is not JUST a buy or JUST a sell, it's the entire transaction. each has it's own "period" of time before it's required to be sent to an external market, if it's not just wiped internally.
I could buy a 100 block share of Tesla, and 37 days later I sell. there's still 53 days left to actually buy *potentially longer* the actual block, or just nullify it. So on day 85 it uses your 100 share block purchase for its own purpose to move the stock, and then uses your sell order on day 88 to make a profit on the move.
"Also, I don't care about the internet bandwagon. I personally think the dialogue around GME is eerily similar to online conspiracy groups and it creeps me tf out. Also I think the whole thing is a giant FOMO and the squeeze squoze a long time ago. You do you, though."
No it's eerily similar to Tesla. These people aren't Conspiracy regards they're bandwagon investors. This is Tesla 2.0 regarding GME, i know it's brick n mortar I know its NFT Jpegs but the CULT is the exact same as TSLA in 2012-2018 era and I'll ride ANY financial cult cause those morons refuse to sell which even WARREN BUFFET famously states all short sellers are just future buyers, so they just cultishly out wait anyone betting against people willing to worship a south american (sl()ave) < they deleted my comment cause of that word... mine owners kid. It's fuckin dumb on both sides but im here for money.

Yes. Exactly my point.

You just don't get it.

The market, where the prices move, are kept away from most orders. The order flow of purchases and sells is being manipulated at high speed with algorithm's to use math to move the stock.

If 90-95% of all orders are kept internalized by an algo and never make it to market, not only does the price NOT move because NO orders go to the market, but due to the systems fail-to-deliver settlement period, most times YOU dont get fuckin ANYTHING other than 1's and 0's visually displaying that you own stock.

SO months later they'll us this purchase or sell via the algo into the market when need be in blocks of 100 or whatever is needed. This settles their failure-to-deliver while giving them actual orders to use at their whim.
The algo will use these to skim pennies off of to make $, or they will lost small amounts of $ to drop it, so that way their hedges, derivatives, etc make MORE $ than the cost to drop it with all the "Non-settled" orders in the system.

Most times with pay for order flow they can MAKE profit off this type of movement.

The GME Comment was lame as fuck, most those "Cultists" Know vastly more than you regarding the actual way the stock market moves.
You shouldn't bandwagon onto social media style team hating, it's fuckin sad.

This is the wrong take because you think all orders actually make it to LIT markets (NYSE, etc.) whereas there is 5-6 layers of actual movement with internalization methods.

Gary gensler head of the SEC currently was quoted saying "90-95% of all retail orders do not make it to lit markets" So that means 9-9.5 out of every 10 trades at least by 100's of millions of regular retail never go to market. (or how ever many millions of regular workers invest actively)

So what you could be seeing is internalization methods of not currently settled shares being used to prop up stocks.

EX: I bought 100 shares of apple 3 months ago at $180 (This is not the price from 3 months ago, its just used for an example) but my broker doesn't send it to a lit market, it internalizes it. So I never actually get shares or anything at all other than the digital representation of it and can choose to sell or buy more if need be.

Now 3 months later, the broker is pushed by a large entity to spit out their needed settlement deliveries and market makers and other brokers are instructed to not put sells to the lit market (Let's not forget APEX and Citadel told 50+ brokers to HALT TRADING on a popular stock recently last year and the brokers OBEYED!)

Now this is all done by algo's, cause in 2010-2011 the market crashed when an algo went offline and the ENTIRE market died no buys no sells for 30+ Seconds. LITERALLY.

So the broker pushes its needed settlement to the lit market, fulfilling orders finally required months back, while the sells are held to wait for the same style metric, and the company whose stock is involved in this rockets upwards unnaturally.

This is just a thought exercise. But it technically could be hidden easily and this is how the market works.

You should look into MARKET MAKERS like Virtu

The CEO DOUG CIFU was quoted on air saying "We provide INFINITE liquidity" now if you can provide infinite liquidity for any share on the market, you can also affect the way the INFINITE liquidity directs itself to affect the price of a stock.

You would do this to stave off a margin call/sell obligation that is over-leveraged and would collapse the company instantly

Visual mod gonna sell the daytrader his 0DTE options

This was a fun chain to read. OP dumb as hell

So the special police force is owned by the largest cardboard box car companies "independent" conglomerate , and it did a good job of making it seem like the cardboard box ordering system was safe, and that you'll always have a car and that the cardboard box car fraud will be kept to a minimum.
Not always, but hopefully most of the time.
The low credit costs as of recently flooded so much fuckin money into fraudulent small and middle sized cardboard box car factories that it's literally impossible to deliver all these cars needed for the amount of cut up boxes that exist in driveways.
So the police force knows this, goes to the big guys and says.. we can't fuckin do our job cause if we do the whole thing is gonna collapse.

And now weird shit has been happening to hopefully force all the people with smaller boxes to sell literally 100% of them out in the real world because there is not enough materials on the planet to make all the cars needed to fulfill these empty boxes.

So now either the entire market breaks unless 100% of those tiny boxes get sent back to the factories.
Unfortunately some weirdo's realized how they could demand their car from the tiny boxes, and now everyone is SUPER PANICKING because almost 1/3rd of all the cars possible are already gone and nothings fixed.

Ya the value of the car is affected in many ways.
Then you get into the aspect of the market itself for cars ordered online delivered in your driveway in a box; if the big guy is doing this with his car, but actually delivers after a week, you'll have skeezy pieces of shit middle and smaller guys pop up.
They will not fulfill the obligation of putting the product in the actual box until the last actual required delivery date, but at some point realize they can get away with selling A LOT more boxes than they even make in their single factory, by just buying the boxes from the larger guy and shipping them from their factory.
Some will even cut up their original cardboard and ship these smaller boxes that could never fit a car, basically becoming "IOU's" to the car buyer that right out of the purchase could never actually produce the car.

So eventually this fraud circle of shit digs deep until all of a sudden the big guys have so many orders they can't fulfill the boxes because too many skeezy bastards are buying to sell and now the big guy is only delivering every 2-3 weeks. But not only that, you also have the fact that instead of delivering X amount of cars with X Amount of boxes, the small and medium pieces of shit have to deliver up to 3 or 4 cars for every large box, because they cut them up so much to resell.

If no one stops the cycle, it, like all other crashes in history, gets to a point where someone calls someone out for not fulfilling a contractual obligation and then it unravels and goes Kaboom.
"The tide goes out" and all the cardboard boxes get flattened at once to see which have cars inside and a shit ton of innocent people get fucked.

As an analogy.

You buy a car online. Pay everything, it says it's getting delivered.

You wake up the next day with a giant car sized cardboard box in your driveway, with a picture of the car you ordered on the outside but nothing is in the box.

When you go to complain, they say "Look on the box, the cars right there, you'll get the internal product from your cardboard box... uhh..whenever we can find it" and now queue a 3-90 day waiting period... if you ever even get it.

Most of the time, the cars value dropped so much, you just sell the cardboard box back to the company or to someone else and say "oh well, I only lost 10% of what I paid"