Came here to mention them. Not necessarily good looking but they are very long lasting. There is a reason why probably 9 of every 10 pilots use them.

I have a midway CB radio. It is fun to talk with truckers

Well my grandad actually liked the forester, I didn’t think he would like it since it is a SUV and he only had ever had sedans and trucks. As for the gauge to be able to monitor the temperature while driving in case the thermostat fails or you are pushing too hard. But he is happy with the forester. Very easy to get in an out and apparently has a good sound system. The guy we bought it from offered to install the gauge for free. Personally or looks ugly but he is happy. Has everything in his wish list.

Buy a hand made one. I have one made out of a bull neck leather. It was like 20 bucks 21 years ago and it is still strong. I bought it Mexico and it is a bit stiff but damn we even used it to pull a small 3 cylinder engine out of a daihatsu where the chains weren’t able to get inside.

I just paint it black every 4 or 5 years

Oh yeah they really aren’t. But if you take care of them they last enough. Here it is common to have a summer car and a bester for winter. In the family we said that my grandmother had two summer dads and my grandfather two beaters. His other car was a Ford ranger. I think those ford rangers outside the rust belt are actually BIFL. It had 320k miles with minor maintenance and a water pump and alternator

He actually had a towncar until he crashed it. RWD cars suck in winter. He ended up setting for a forester, thanks!

Well, thank you all! we ended up with a used subaru forester. It had the CD radio and I guess will work awesome since it is 4WD. My granpa didn't like the fact that it wasn't a sedan but he says that it was very easy to get in and out. The guy we bought it is a garage mechanic, he told him that he will install the temperature gauge for free and that he can take care of the oil changes, I guess what mostly sold to my grandpa was the subwoofer, no idea my granpa was a bass head. Thank you all! We will be picking it up tomorrow or the day after tomorrow since the mechanic will be installing the temperature gauge, once we have it I will share a picture.

My grand parents are completely opposite except in one thing. They love music and I have not seen another library or shop that has half of the collection they have. My grandmother is more tech savy, she has an iphone XS or XR not sure it starts with X, knows how to use bluetooth and all that. My granpa has my old granmother iphone8 and only uses it for calls and some times because he always forgets to charge it.

My granpa really likes cds and to hear radio, I have tried a lot of times to teach him to use bluetooth and spotify, but he really doesn't want nor care.

Not that maintenance in general is a scam, but that places that do it are. He used long time ago to do its own maintenance. TBH he really doesn't take care of his cars, which is weird, my grand mother keeps her cars super pristine. Her honda element hits the dealership every 6 months most of the times with less than a 1000 miles difference.

I really don't know what my granpa thinks but he thinks they try to oversell stuff and charge too much for things he could get in autozone for cheaper and do it self. Stuff like that sort, but yeah, he doesn't take care of his cars just tires, breaks and stuff that breaks.

Thank you all. I think one of the musts to have is a CD. But I think most cars don’t have it. I think we saw a Mazda 2 2020 that still had it. I think we will end up buying something used. The Camry looked promising. Also thanks for the suggestion of the forester. I think that one had a cd player. But it went to the no list because it didn’t had a proper temperature sensor gauge.