• For starters, what the heck is even a “caliber rifle?”
• That ar is basically an sbr because given the slide length of the hi point just underneath, that ain't no 12.1" barrel.
• Is that a red dot mounted to the underside of the mlok handguard? That's sus as hell that an actual person mounted that. I hope I'm wrong and that's just forced perspective.
• illegal mags and alleged auto sears once again. Great to see our gun control is working when these MFs have more firepower than the average cop let alone legal citizen defender. 🤦‍♂️
• funny this is the first time I've seen a ruger 10/22 in a weapons confiscation ever. I wonder if this has anything to do with Lamont's proposed ban that includes semi-auto 22 firearms. 🤔
• not a single auto switch is on any of those pistols

Ok so we aren’t going to talk about the elephants in the room? I’ll wait for someone to point em out because there’s a bunch.

Beat me to it by…9 hours. 🤣

It could be worse. Just be glad it’s not Ride of the Century.

Darien/rowayton area?

Thanks. Will do

Same same.

Oooo but dammit, why does all the fun stuff happen on weeks that I’m on call. Wish I could go.

I love the “this isn’t some hollywood movie” because pretty much everyone who’s shot a firearm knows hollywood is trash when it comes to anything realistic about firearms. Also tells me where you’re getting your information from. TV and not the range.

You guys are fine with throwing around “innocent until proven guilty” and want to talk to me about reality but throw around extreme circumstances or outliers that aren’t even remotely representative of the values or training of the majority of law enforcement or civilian gun ownership. In both cases people decried the actions of the officer and those looney toons that chased down Amaud.

But since you want to throw around incidents lets go there. Earlier this year an armed citizen, stopped a violent attacker, Estaban padron, who had slashed two other applebees employees. No shots were fired. This happened in upstate NY of all places. Was an “innocent” person killed? No. Did it stop the criminal activity? Yes.

Remember Shawn Sutton and his wife Melody? Dude pretended to be a customer to rob a gas station in North Georgia. Two armed customers noticed the situation, stopped the robbery, and held the two at gun point until officers arrived. No one died in that petty theft event.

Or this one. Stopped theft without a shot being fired. I could go on. That’s reality.

My invitation is always open if you guys want to hit up the range, a gun class, a self defense and firearms law course both of which are taught by law enforcement and attorneys so you can see for yourself.

🤦‍♂️ And another one that can’t read. What a country indeed.

“First of all they are innocent. A) our criminal Justice system is based on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law and b) in case you missed it in my comment, I am referring to a case where a car owner comes up and sees someone near their car and THINKS they are thieves despite the fact that they are not. If I drop my keys and they roll under your car for example. In this case they definitively ARE innocent in every sense of the word.”

I’ve explained “positive id” relative to your example of innocence twice and I’m not explaining it a third. You obviously aren’t getting it.

“I have seen plenty of videos of the use of deadly force. How about the one where a police officer shot a kid holding a pear because he thought it was a grenade? There are plenty of videos of people being killed because the person with a gun THOUGHT they were in danger but they either due to a lack of training or just the fact that humans are fallible, jittery idiots on the whole, are capable of making split second mistakes, Including “trained” individuals. And given the current “training” required to be a gun owner is a power point presentation, a multiple choice test and firing a couple rounds in a gun range, I wouldn’t exactly consider that adequate training. You can claim you want gun owners to be better trained for real world situations, fine I can agree with that, but you cannot deny that they currently ARENT and taking woefully untrained people and allowing them and even encouraging them to use firearms in real world situations will, inevitably, lead to them making incorrect assumptions and decisions and will, inevitably, lead to them causing the deaths of innocent people.”

You are seriously stretching what defines an innocent person as a generalization in these cases. Even more, the kid with a pear. Okay let’s take that case. What information was given to the officer prior to him shooting that kid with a pear vs me happening upon you with your dropped chapstick next to my car? You’re implying a very choice set of variables that have to happen in sequence that would lead to me thinking that you were stealing my cat. Which is highly unlikely because any thinking person can see that you don’t have a sawzall and will probably state that you dropped your chapstick. I’m saying NO ONE thinks like that unprovoked, armed or not. I beg to ask because there are armed people among us everyday, has that ever happened to you where someone thought you were stealing something and pointed a gun at you without question just because you were bent over?

“So I ask again, how many catalytic converters is worth an innocent persons life?”

🤦‍♂️

Like you said, that’s if you can track down the buyer especially if they’re taking it out of state. Is there any identification or registration on those cats to prove which one is yours? Honest question.

“How many catalytic converters is an innocent persons life worth?”

They aren’t innocent if they’re committing a crime. And again…I SAID POSITIVE ID. That doesn’t mean you shoot just because they have a weapon and at no time in my reply did I say that that’s what you do.

“I have actually fired a gun before, more than a few times which is why I am so disturbed by your idea of allowing and encouraging people to treat petty theft as a threat on their life.”

No. I’m simply stating that a person should have the right and ability to adequately defend their property from potentially armed criminals.

“You claim the majority of gun owners would fire until the 100% knew the situation but when you have a gun in your hand and you see someone doing something sketchy, you don’t know what they’re doing, your adrenaline starts kicking in, you start shaking, then stand up suddenly, you don’t know if they have a weapon, you hat do you do?”

Again, that’s brandishing and a completely hypothetical reaction not based on anything factual related to this situation. If you want I can provide links to surveillance footage of actual deadly force encounters and you can see for yourself how people react in these kinda of situations.

“I’m your magical world you claim every gun owner would take the time to do a threat analysis of to determine the exact situation but since we’re not all super genius Sherlock Holmes types who can take in all the evidence and calculate the proper course of action in a split second, people will have to make a snap decision.”

What are you even talking about? You’re saying in my magical world but I’ve been in these scenarios both training and in real life. It doesn’t take a sherlok holmes to have a firearm holstered, approach a situation from a position of dominance, and issue verbal commands to stop the criminal act, or defend yourself if they present you with deadly force. Making it known that there’s a high probability that criminal acts can be met with deadly force if escalated, deters crime. If not, armed guards wouldn’t exist.

“When untrained people are making snap decisions with a gun in their hands, innocent people WILL die. Maybe it won’t be you that does it, maybe your too good for that, but someone else will.”

That’s why training goes hand in hand with being armed and I’ve always said that.

“How many catalytic converters is worth an innocent persons life?”

Then don’t call the police and risk their innocent life when you have a problem. 🤷‍♂️

Oooo, more legislation that they won’t follow. That’s the solution. Got a problem…just throw another law and increased insurance premiums to cover the cost of covering those claims in a hope that maybe it stops the people who didn’t give a crap about the laws against theft in the first place. Costs gets shifted to any person with a car and even if your insurance covers it, your car is out of commission until it’s repaired. As if people aren’t struggling as it is.

I don’t know if you have never held a gun or trained with one but this idea that people who own firearms will just pop rounds off if they see someone do anything slightly weird is so friggin annoying and absurd. Why the hell would I come up to you and brandish a firearm on a paper thin suspicion without confirming what you were actually doing is a crime? I wouldn’t and neither would the majority of gun owners because it wasn’t even happening when gun laws were more relaxed. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t happen to you on a daily basis if ever and there are more gun owners now than there was years ago.

I get it, you don’t want to hurt someone. We all don’t but there has to be a line drawn somewhere against the criminal who doesn’t give a crap about you or your property.

What’s your plan? Come outside in your pajamas with a baseball bat and threaten the two gun wielding thieves to stop stealing your property? No, you’ll just call someone else to deal with your problem and hope that they get there in time to apprehend them. Hope they don’t post bail, skip the court hearing, and keep on doing what they do. Then you’ll come on reddit and complain about ACAB or some trash and then the cycle of insanity continues. 🤔🤦‍♂️

Not gonna lie, I thought that too at first! 🤣

Sadly, this is happening across the country more and more since local leaders won’t let citizens protect their property. And if you do it’s “you escalated the situation so you’re at fault here.” 🤦‍♂️

The P&S sub was just talking about this.

No problem. 👍

I recommend doing some research into it. You don’t have to go crazy with it but it’s good to have some basic information on the topic so that you aren’t caught off guard. Here’s a link to a good video on radiation detection and fallout.

No, they wouldn’t. War is rarely fought that way. Honor and respect on the battlefield have long since passed. They see an enemy medic, they open fire. They see civilians aiding the enemy, they open fire. It’s all about numbers. If you’re thinking wartime strats, killing a ton of people in a short amount of time is efficient, demoralizing, and headline grabbing. And manhattan has an estimated 1.7 million people that could be wiped out by a nuke in an instant and even more through the nuclear fallout being carried up through CT, RI, and MA vs groton’s population of 39,000, if that. Densely populated areas are prime targets. Hell, why do you think mass shooters pick schools? Densely populated and extremely vulnerable. When was last time there a mass casualty event at a courthouse, police station, government building, private affluent school with a bunch of armed security? It’s all soft targets they go after for shock and awe. And it works unfortunately.

Depends on where it hits and what the yield is. Anything shy of a “tsar bomba” impact on manhattan is pretty much a fallout problem for us in CT in which case you’re either prepared to shelter in place or evacuate to a fallout shelter immediately. Either way, Greenwich, stamford, cos cob, darien, and parts of norwalk and new canaan would be hit the worst.

I can’t tell you what to prioritize or what to act upon based on concerns. I will say this, prepare for the worst and hope for the best. People can call you stupid or paranoid but what matters is that you are prepared, to the best of your abilities, for the curveballs life throws at you.

Unless you have a preexisting metabolic deficiency, it’s rare you could get a stress fracture in the l4 and l5 without some kind of high impact trauma. Those bones aren’t easily fractured by just you seizing up. Then again, I’m no doctor and my google research is limited so 🤷‍♂️. Just never heard of a ptsd fracture. Meh, ya learn something new everyday.

Oh great, insults during a discussion over an issue. That’ll get me to see your point. /s

Yes, an 18 year old legally bought a rifle (and also went through the same federal background check that every legal firearm purchase has to go through in the US) WHICH WAS REGISTERED TO HIM! So how would that “safeguard” that was already in place have prevented him from going ape and committing murder?

Yet I’m the problem here? I didn’t commit murder. But thank you for proving to everyone that instead looking at the situation objectively, you prefer to let your emotions, rather than logic, govern your response. I’m the problem? What have you done to protect anyone from gun violence outside of complain on reddit about something you obviously know nothing of?

You didn’t answer the question. Same way registration doesn’t stop someone from speeding, driving while drunk, or committing vehicular manslaughter.

You’re proposing disqualifiers that are already in place but still don’t stop these kinds of criminals so again, how would registration prevent this?

The event in Texas could’ve been prevented by a locked door amongst other things so…

They already have mental health prohibitions on gun purchases, and what does annual gun registration even mean and how will that prevent a prohibited possessor from committing murder?