SiegwardZwiebelbrudi

SiegwardZwiebelbrudi t1_iwfqtk4 wrote

honestly if true, that is a new low. that being said, this post kinda stays without impact in this sub, because literally everybody already hates pc headsets, because they offer poor sound quality, with a few exceptions.

my first reaction was to shrug this off as well, but i totally get the point with the SN Sticker, that is ridiculous.

Make a Twitter post about it and pay the $8 so you can pose as Donald Trump, and claim Steel Series doesn´t make america great again. You get the jist, tweet about it, link it to the steel series page and pcmasterrace. good luck with that, this really sucks

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SiegwardZwiebelbrudi t1_iui9gl5 wrote

honestly i don't even have a lot of insight in what crinacle says, sometimes its sound critique and sometimes, like in case of the "you don't need an amp" video, i know where he is coming from, but clearly he just gets the camera rolling and starts talking.

thing is sometimes i want to give good advice myself and it hurts when somebody uses a link to a crinacle video to refute something you say.

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SiegwardZwiebelbrudi t1_iu0vb5t wrote

honestly amps don´t actually exist, if you believe a big part of this community (its only a cable that connects input and output and a knob that leads to nowhere)

Jokes aside though, we look at a Headphone from two perspectives, sensitivity and driver resistance, impedance is variable between 130 and 240 Ohm and sensitivity is 246mV for 94db, which is below average.

now for variable impedance headphones you want an amp with low output impedance and that sensitivity will also benefit from an amp.

now to adress that myth, if its loud enough you don´t need an amp, there are factors that are typically forgotten. consumer amps (including whats in your laptop) typically don´t clip, when a song is too demanding (especially concerning low frequencies) instead it just delivers less power...bass is weak.

also you would want a little bass eq with the 560s, where unfortunately those cans already show more distortion than others...having a better amp here won´t hurt.

my last argument is that you achieve basically an end to this stupid discussion with spending 200€. the topping dx3 pro+ will drive any normal headphone perfectly, except fringe cases, like the hifiman he6. This is a 1200€ headphone though, and when you reach that point, well it wouldn´t hurt to reconsider amps as well.

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SiegwardZwiebelbrudi t1_iu0j8kf wrote

Somehow Reddit has a copy/paste bug for several months now, but i wrote a comment touching on most amp qualities, and would only add that something like noise floor will improve and some internal desktop amps have noise issues resulting from current leakage...the rest is mentioned in my comment.

sorry reddit hates me and won´t let me paste it here

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SiegwardZwiebelbrudi t1_iu0fajl wrote

honestly amps don´t actually exist, if you believe a big part of this community (its only a cable that connects input and output and a knob that leads to nowhere)

Jokes aside though, we look at a Headphone from two perspectives, sensitivity and driver resistance, impedance is variable between 130 and 240 Ohm and sensitivity is 246mV for 94db, which is below average.

now for variable impedance headphones you want an amp with low output impedance and that sensitivity will also benefit from an amp.

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now to adress that myth, if its loud enough you don´t need an amp, there are factors that are typically forgotten. consumer amps (including whats in your laptop) typically don´t clip, when a song is too demanding (especially concerning low frequencies) instead it just delivers less power...bass is weak.

also you would want a little bass eq with the 560s, where unfortunately those cans already show more distortion than others...having a better amp here won´t hurt.

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my last argument is that you achieve basically an end to this stupid discussion with spending 200€. the topping dx3 pro+ will drive any normal headphone perfectly, except fringe cases, like the hifiman he6. This is a 1200€ headphone though, and when you reach that point, well it wouldn´t hurt to reconsider amps as well.

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SiegwardZwiebelbrudi t1_ittyxvc wrote

Atmos Amaze demo, on a certified device. its mixed for reference, so you will encounter clipping if your amp is not up to the task, which is a nice bonus, and it goes through all the works, bass, imaging resolution and its short enough, that you have a chance to remember everything, when you compare headphones, and at some point you will know this better than any song

Edit: obviously you need a proper source for this, youtube is just mixed for -14 LUFS like everything else.

Demo Bluray, or a Pc with the Atmos for Headphones App

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