Revenge_of_the_User

Revenge_of_the_User t1_jclfc3c wrote

My roomie works in a warehouse and his thought pattern under load is that if he takes a break, hes just going to have to do all that work anyway the next day, in addition to the rest of it.

So he cant enjoy days off, even if he got them. Its bonkers.

52

Revenge_of_the_User t1_jc5u19t wrote

Youre comparing apples to oranges.

Animals and plants have completely different systems evolved for dealing with things like infection and pests or parasites. Right down to cell structure.

Many plants have evolved such that a broken branch can heal to become its own entire plant (a genetic clone of the original) and a lot of that is down to cell structure and how relatively simple a plant is in operation.

Compared to how varied animals are; we span every environment to some degree, we consume a huge variety of food (which puts us at risk of as many different infections and parasites as you can imagine) we exist in various states of health for extended periods of time, and we have differing aspects of health (i.e. a tree needs sun, air, and water. We have dietary needs far more complex, we have mental health that can and does have physical implications) so for humans/animals, we evolved an immune system specifically for the purpose of handling many of these issues. And the issues are so varied, the immune system must make a distinction between the body its trying to protect and foreign material - else it cant do what needs to be done (the person dies due to a lack of effective immune system) or the opposite extreme where the immune system doesnt properly make the distinction between friend and foe; known as an autoimmune disease where it attacks tissues its supposed to protect. This is why it attacks another humans tissue. That tissue could carry disease or parasites, it isnt the tissue its programmed to protect. And the immune system has evolved successfully by attacking these things.

Animals and plants are very, very different.

42

Revenge_of_the_User t1_jaafa0m wrote

Its misworded; the issue is that when the agae dies, the decomposition process eats up the oxygen....and as stated somewhere above, causes more stuff to die, causing more decomposition, causing less oxygen and more death......its pretty concerning honestly. There are pockets of no oxygen moving around in the ocean that just suffocate things.

18

Revenge_of_the_User t1_jaaesjn wrote

The astronaut everyone loves, cant remember his name, demonstrated this not too long ago by being pretty deep below water level where the pressure is just...much greater than on a beach.

He shook a soda pretty vigorously, and then cracked it. Since the pressure was so high down there, the pop only slightly fizzed.

This is also why deep divers have to surface slowly, or spend time in a hyperbaric (pressure) chamber if the need to surface quickly. The nitrogen gas in their blood/tissue expands as they go up, and needs to be done slowly or you get "the bends". Think meat balloon on a cellular level. Can be fatal, or cause life long problems. One guys body swelled up like crazy after an emergency deep dive surfacing (lost his air hose) and survived; though the hyperbaric chamber didnt really help him like it can others - he stayed unfortunately very swollen. But at least he didnt die. The bends are very painful, im told.

All because of gasses in liquids at varying pressures.

10

Revenge_of_the_User t1_j9yalll wrote

Having held some internal debates regarding this (i have a wide variety of conceptual exposure through media, so like others ive thought about this already to some extent)

...i think its unobtainable in some ways, unhealthy in others, and opens new avenues towards risk.

To elaborate;

I think its not really worth what people want it for. Keepsakes and memorabilia exist already, along with reminders like voice messages, cards with recorded messages on them, tattoos of voice recordings, and the wealth of media that most people have of themselves means theres little benefit to having a digital copy specifically for interacting with. No matter how similar something is, a copy can never quite fill the hole made by the original.

Death happens. Its not fair, its not entirely predictable, and it scares a lot of people and makes even more uncomfortable. I could see a digital copy of a dead person exacerbating issues with moving on, letting go, and even mental illnesses in that vein.

Assuming these copies don't grow or "age/mature" brings in issues with the longevity and intended use of these things. If you lose a kid at 10 and obtain a digital clone of them, at what point do you just get over dealing with this perpetual digital 10 year old? Once they stop being copies and grow, they stop being the person you lost and become something else. Feelings of abandonment over turning off a program probably wont help much.

Then theres expected use duration. At what point does this vague resemblance stop being a comfort and instead becomes an ugly, painful reminder to whats lost? How does that affect the dynamic?

Then speaking as someone who will or would be cloned - what are my experiences going to be like? I dont think id want a digital clone to be made, because that wouldnt be me; it would be a facsimile of me pushing whatever the programmers want it to push. Maybe itll cook up something awful via unintended programming or glitches.....i dont want my "legacy" to be tied to that. It also concerns me that it would need basically my life experiences, just aaall the information i can recall...and even then, were made by millions of little decisions that we'll never remember. How do you reliably translate all that, and protect that info?

Its gonna be a shitshow. Full of what i suspect are just rando-bots that appear or sound similar to a loved one that cant ever truly be that loved one. Even if it sounds alike, or uses AI to mimic a 3d appearance or speaking/writing style, its just .....someone else. Ill stick to what weve got, thanks.

2

Revenge_of_the_User t1_j6098ba wrote

I use a garbage bag and spread it in/over the sink flat (as in, one side is up and the other is down.)

Then i can pick it up by the corners and a shake or two above the garbage gets most of the hair. Fold it up so i open it the right way up next time and its golden.

Ill upgrade eventually by getting one of those plastic-barber-like-bibs and throwing some suction cups on one end. They stick to the mirror over the sink and the other side would tie around my neck making for less hair spread, and easier cleaning and use than a garbage bag.

2

Revenge_of_the_User t1_j5xwtrh wrote

For real, getting away from my devices does so much.

Take a walk, read a book, pick up a game you havent played in a while, do something with friends that involves leaving your house (if you can)

Its so difficult to just curate only the good stuff. Or good stuff with substance. Taking a break does the brain good.

13

Revenge_of_the_User t1_j5b2ork wrote

2

Revenge_of_the_User t1_j22yuls wrote

Moved into a house. Roomie calls me downstairs because she wanted to go out the basement door because she cant get it open.

I give it a yank. Nope, its closed. But the way it moves -

I wordlessly reach over and slide a little gate lock open thats clearly visible just above the knob and open the door. Total time spent: 5 seconds.

She facepalmed so hard, all i could say was "man, i wish all my problems were that easy to solve."

11

Revenge_of_the_User t1_j1tn660 wrote

Have experience moving glass. If you put the wrong pressure anywhere (particularly edges and corners, and it can be the glass' own weight as well that does it) it just insta-poofs into shards and dust. Though this is tempered/treated glass.

Was resting a shower door on my foot while a customer was getting her car ready and a corner happened to touch the concrete. I didnt even feel the glass touch the concrete. Boof, no more door.

Happens. But for anyone out there: you cant manhandle stuck tempered glass, because it wont flex and you can never tell where the forces are at (usually edges and corners, or otherwise hardware that concentrates forces) always deal with the tracks or hardware if you can. And have an extra person to distribute weight....glass is heavy furthering the risk.

5

Revenge_of_the_User t1_iy1jnll wrote

"People that matter dont mind, and people that mind dont matter."

Dont know who said it, but anxiety doesnt really play by logical rules, afaik.

Literally - people dont spend much time thinking of others past surface thought. Unless they like you or dont like you; but not only will most people not reach that level of involvement; it still follows the above rule. If they are giving positive attention then theyre worth paying some attention to (generally), and if its negative attention then they dont matter. They arent contributing past some potential self reflection and you make that call. But it IS a call you get to make.

Someone thinking badly of you somewhere has no bearing on anyone's reality.

3

Revenge_of_the_User t1_ix9dmms wrote

Has the opposite effect for my roomie and I; our brains latch onto the narrative and wont let go.

White noise like the dishwasher, or laundry going is what works best here. Just something that is without demanding your attention.

4