GadgetGod1906

GadgetGod1906 t1_j98h6og wrote

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Whatever man. The damn NFL has admitted to the issues. Hell owners have talked about it. You still coming with the prove it

Here is the deal. Unless an owner comes out and says we dont hire iggggas, it's all good as far as you ate concerned.

Anyway I am watching the NBA Allstars game. Moving on

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GadgetGod1906 t1_j95jxio wrote

First of all I have not said racism. I am giving you the perspective of others.

Part of the problem with people like yourself is that you are quick to dismiss perspectives of others or even hear them out out.

The other point of this conversation is showing you why people believe with the small sample size of Black Coaches we have had, there have been a disporpotionate amount of them that were not given a reasonable amount of time to succeed. No one is saying the owners are racist.

Let me also make this last point. The NFL itself has said it has a problem with minority hiring. They know more about the hiring practices and barriers than you and I. If you are waiting for a smoking gun that an owner did not hire a black coach because he is black, that is never going to happen. No owner wil l admit that. If a coach comes out and says that something was said to them that would lead them to believe they were not hired for that reason, you probably won't believe that either.

What is fair to say is the system in place does not always allow for minority coaches to get a fair opportunity to be head coaches. Again, the NFL believes this but no one is saying all 32 owners are racist.

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GadgetGod1906 t1_j94a6u0 wrote

I can't believe you brought up Urban Meyer. Dude was fired because of a scandal.

Here is the bigger point. Thete is not a wide range of bitching when every black coach gets fired.

Oh and btw, there are white coaches people go to bat for who ate given a raw deal. Bisaccia was done wrong last year and people complained about it.

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GadgetGod1906 t1_j949n3q wrote

I will say it again. There are a smaller sample size of Black Coaches than white coaches because of the historical discrimination practices of the NFL.

You still don't get it. For a long time black coaches were not even hired. So there is a history here. If you are going to deny that then we can't even have a productive discussion.

In the case of Steve Wilks it's not only that you were fired but who were you fired for. A failed college coach. But let's be real this is not about these individual situations, it's about the history of the NFL purposeful denial of opportunities for black coaches

I also want you to look at the coaches that you just named. I live in Jacksonville and there us no damn way you should throw Urban in that group. He was not even fired for performance on the field. Hacket was in over his head.

Lovie Smith was fired after a 10-6 season. He was fired after one season with a team that had no expectations. Culley was fired after 1 season. The same season you had to let your franchise QB go.

As far as Steve Wilks...... Panthers would not hire him after the great coaching job he did with an organization that went into rebuild mode. Oh and who did they hire? Frank Reich who just got fired from Ondy 😂

I mean come on man, please present all sides to this.

Lastly. I named three coaches that people have brought up.

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GadgetGod1906 t1_j93bqpe wrote

That is not always said. It is however said in cases like Culley and Lovie Smith.

People complained about Steve Wilks because he got one year.

Let's first of all remember there is not a huge sample size of Black Coaches ti make this claim but I don't remember this being said about Marvin Lewis, Tomlin, Dungy, Herm Edward's, Romeo Crennel

What has been complained about is not being given enough time in some cases to succeed.

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