Clarksp2

Clarksp2 t1_j1x296m wrote

I use talk to text on my phone, got ya!

Anywho, you know who also runs a show, and claims success, but it’s all bullshxt? Putin.

My shallow analysis of profitability, eh? What would be your take? In many of my responses I asked questions that weren’t all that rhetorical. How would you equate profitability then, besides that the show runners say so?

I quickly brought about a rough estimate of subscribers needed to have a return on investment. Which is usually what most people call “profit”

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Clarksp2 t1_j1wtn8r wrote

Cute little keyboard warrior, you are. Until you can show actual financial figures, not just Amazon potentially doubling down on a gamble (all investments are), then all you have is a statement from Amazon who only benefits from exaggerating the reality. I hope it works for them, as I am a big Tolkien fan, but to say it’s a success in my opinion (yes, mine, less biased than the show runners opinion) is a large exaggeration. If you compare the critical and audience reception of the LOTR, this is drastically different, regardless of longer reach that allows more views than the early 2000s.

Either way, happy holidays fellow redditor, I do wish you well

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Clarksp2 t1_j1woqs5 wrote

Lol one statement from the very person who has a personal stake in it without any factual numbers is not anything.

Ask yourself, if I quadrupled my content budget for just one show, and that show doesn’t do well, do you think I’m going to say so?

They have much more to gain by “claiming” it’s turning a profit than saying it will take years to return the investment.

So good job finding the one statement from the show runner.

Also, not sure how you aren’t seeing my logic. I feel like you don’t even realize that I’ve watched the show, enjoyed it, but was not as exciting as the anticipation of the show was. All I’m saying is that there’s absolutely no way in 3.5 months they have already generated 500m in profit (not just revenue) from “viewership hours and increased subscribers” 31 million monthly subscribers would need to be added just to get return of investment, but there are other intangibles associated with that (ie running costs of the service, increased server capacity/bandwidth,maintenance, customer service, etc) so the real number to profit would need to be somewhere in the 40-45 million subscribers (14.99/month).

And that still assumes that every last subscriber that has been added can be tied to RoP, but in the article you keep quoting, they also talk about the big partnership with the NFL which also contributed to subscriber increase

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Clarksp2 t1_j1whh8w wrote

Increase in subscribers while also noting the addition of all Thursday night NFL games as part of that says zero about how RoP has turned them a profit?

So are they saying every single “new” subscriber only subscribed for RoP/NFL, how many new subscribers? These statements sound a lot like the grandiose verbiage Trump would spew “tremendous” “greatest ever” “number 1”

Just give me the actual stats. 465 million spent on the first season. If the subscriber increase has turned profit, that would mean a total of 31 million new subscribers over the course of the 3.5-4months of its release.

One article quoting the show runners saying it’s a hit is far from showing proof of turning a profit

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Clarksp2 t1_j1wep3y wrote

Lol how has it turned a profit though? I keep seeing this same article shared. If I spent a billion dollars, I’d probably also want my investors to not feel slighted so would ultimately say “massive success, worth every penny” but saying it without showing it are two different things entirely

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Clarksp2 t1_j1vpflb wrote

Viewership record doesn’t mean increase in profits? Also, do third parties investigate viewership reporting? If I spent 4 times the amount of budget than any previous project, I would want the world to think that it was more viewed than it was.

Regardless if the viewership stats are true, I still don’t see the correlation to success in terms of profit

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Clarksp2 t1_j1voo7f wrote

How does 1 season of streaming gross billions? If that’s the case, good for them. (Did they sell the rights to other services, can you buy/rent physical copies of it? Or do they just measure the increase in monthly subscribers and attribute it solely to RoP?) But just because it had the biggest budget of any prime original, and the largest marketing allocation to boot, doesn’t mean it’s the biggest success.

Personal opinion : success of movie/television should be measured on its overall return on investment.

Non Amazon example would be Deadpool, budget less than 80m with overall revenue close to or exceeding a billion dollars.

In terms of spending a billion to make 1.2 billion, isn’t a success at just a 20% ROI compared to the 1000% ROI other well scripted, lower budget originals can bring

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Clarksp2 t1_j1vn8kp wrote

While I don’t agree at all with OPs assessment of wokeness in RoP, but I really don’t see where you are saying RoP is Amazon’s biggest success? They’ve spent nearly 800m dollars. Success shouldn’t be only viewed by evaluation of critics (usually paid propaganda at this point) but more on return on investment.

I truly don’t see how this boring series will provide decades long engagement to bring back the billions spent on its development

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