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Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j20tbs6 wrote
Reply to comment by passwordisnotaco in How do shifts work on really long medical operations? by TerjiD
Great. Pay them more, and be sure to pass along some to the attendings that have final say in all decisions and bear all the liability. Don't train them less.
Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j20pn99 wrote
Reply to comment by Purecasher in How do shifts work on really long medical operations? by TerjiD
It can cost upwards of $180k per year to train a resident in the US. Stop with the BS about how much revenue they bring in... they don't, and they're a liability.
When I worked at an academic center my residents were often out the door on non-call days hours before I finished. And you spend a ton of time teaching, looking for and catching errors, and explaining to angry family members why what the PGY1 said on pre-rounds was incorrect. Residents don't bring more quality of life to attending, but quite the opposite. Academic attendings are rewarded by being paid less than their private practice colleagues.
Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j20oy5g wrote
Reply to comment by Raddish_ in How do shifts work on really long medical operations? by TerjiD
It can be upwards of $180k per year. This was in 2014.
The Costs of Training Internal Medicine Residents in the United ... https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(14)00596-8/pdf
Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j20k581 wrote
Reply to comment by Purecasher in How do shifts work on really long medical operations? by TerjiD
Less work hours means less exposure to learning cases. End of story.
Also, residents certainly do a lot of work. But every decision they make needs to be supervised by an attending. A private practice attending often can do the work a team of residents does at a training facility. I really don't think they're grossly underpaid. Maybe somewhat, but it isn't like they're working in sweatshops. And, at the end of the day, they are being paid to be trained. It costs serious money to train a resident.
I'm all for more rest and free time if the number of years of training is increased to compensate the loss of experience.
Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j20dt9d wrote
Reply to comment by thegypsyqueen in How do shifts work on really long medical operations? by TerjiD
How so? What is your level of training?
Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j208dob wrote
Reply to comment by El-Diable in How do shifts work on really long medical operations? by TerjiD
That would be one option. But physicians already aren't making real money and starting their lives until early to mid 30s as it is. I think most residents today wouldn't want that option though. They essentially want more money for less work hours/less training. They have high confidence and really don't understand what it is like to be out on your own, making most of the decisions on your own without being able to ask your attending what to do.
I personally was happy to get done in a shorter time even if that meant several years of 80-100hr work weeks.
Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j203ty7 wrote
Reply to comment by Cyclops_is_Right in How do shifts work on really long medical operations? by TerjiD
Yep, and as much as residents love to complain about how much they work, there really is no other way to pack all of the training a physician needs in a few years. There is still a ton to learn and master as an attending.
Boring_Vanilla4024 t1_j9e56t0 wrote
Reply to comment by Weird_Major2489 in The case of a patient who had COVID for 318 days helped scientists discover a new route for dangerous coronavirus strain emergence. They found mutations enabling T cell escape. Keeping track of mutations is crucial for understanding, monitoring, and controlling the pandemic by Skoltech_
Yep. Had so many renal transplant patients in their 40s die in the height of the pandemic.