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Aunti-Everything t1_ixy2hpf wrote

I absolutely believe the west should restore full trade and diplomatic relations with Russia when it has:

  1. Removed all of it's forces to pre 2014 borders.
  2. Turned over all of its war criminals to The Hague, Putin and every one of his supporters and everyone down the line who has committed war crimes in Ukraine.
  3. Paid every penny of restitution to Ukraine for all the damage it has done includes $1 million for every Ukrainian killed, wounded, tortured, murdered, injured and raped.

Then we can begin to talk.

Russians: do you see what Putin has done to you?

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throwmamadownthewell t1_ixy4xd9 wrote

\4. Stop using paid bot armies in an effort to destabilize other countries, harm their health and economies.

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Sandbox_Hero t1_ixybd9h wrote

2014 borders? What about Chechnya? Transnistria? South Ossetia?

Kinda sad that people still don’t know that Ukraine wasn’t the first to suffer from Russia’s kleptocracy after Soviet Union dissolution.

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adarkuccio t1_ixydpws wrote

Russia will always be Russia, this will never happen and things there will never change, if anything, it could collapse into smaller states, of which a few may become decent and a few like smaller Russia, or even worse, imho.

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lostinachinastore t1_ixyiz8k wrote

No matter the outcome of this war, russia is not done with their plan. If we let them they will slowly regain strength until they have an opportunity to continue. The end of the Ukraine conflict is not the endgame.

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G_Morgan t1_iy05d6q wrote

Nope Russia are a strategic threat to the west and only partial normalisation should ever be on the table. Any material that can be used for military purposes should be barred from sale to Russia on an indeterminate basis.

I have no idea what a Russia we could sell computer chips that could be used in missiles even looks like. I just know this one is not it.

Food, primary resources and medicine. That is pretty much the realistic extent of what future trade relations with post war Russia should look like.

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Aunti-Everything t1_iy0bu0v wrote

Yeah you are right. I was being far too generous though I thought I was being harsh.

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