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Eresbonitaguey t1_iy6qmfo wrote

Reply to comment by Swift_F0x in German government defends plan to ease citizenship rules by HRJafael

Points based systems are already in place in Canada, New Zealand and Australia. Americans can move to these places provided that they are valuable enough. Besides the usual skills and education required, Germany will certainly require proof of basic language proficiency. You can move most places already if you can get a company to employ you locally so if you really want to leave the US then your best bet is to learn a skill that’s in demand and get experience.

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LightInthewater t1_iy6u51j wrote

>Americans can move to these places provided that they are valuable enough

THis is the big one. It's also not that you are valuable by yourself. IT's that you're valuable on paper.

35 years old and can take apart and rebuild any household appliance, rewire a house and a master plumber? Cool cool. You got the paper work for it? no? fuck off.

For the record I am exaggerating greatly to make a point.

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Eresbonitaguey t1_iy72z17 wrote

I get your point but in NZ and Aus we have strict certifications for people who carry out electrical and plumbing work so if you don’t have some formal qualification in them you would have no chance of practicing unless you did an apprenticeship and then that puts you at virtually the same level as a kid out of high school. Obviously all people are inherently valuable but it’s more about if you’re valuable from an economic point of view. Points based systems are arguably superior because they are quite transparent and offer multiple ways to meet the requirements.

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drewster23 t1_iy6t572 wrote

So people know Valuable enough, usually means ,not readily available local. (at least If a company is going to be your sponsor/ticket to citizenship).

But if anyone is interested into moving to a country with a points system, look it up so you can see what you can work on, to help your chances. As it covers a range of things.

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Eresbonitaguey t1_iy733n0 wrote

Yeah there’s usually a skills shortage list of some kind. Australia even has different ones for different states so you’d want to check the state government requirements especially for trades.

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