As someone who used to serve on subs I want to contest your comment, however I have nothing, so I’m just going to go and cry silently in the corner as I try to figure out if I’m a weirdo or a reject.

I have a friend who was a submariner, and he explained it this way to me:

imagine being stuck in a super cramped boat, having to share the same tiny, cramped bunk bed with other crew mates (they sleep in it on their sleep time and so a bed isn't empty and wasting space), and you do it for months at a time.

and you do this all with the same group of guys, so you better hope that yall at least pretend to get along, because it's a long ass time trapped in there.

(I think he had mentioned its one of those "no girls allowed yet" jobs still because their mission parameters basically put them needing to be submerged for literally months and no access to offshore medical)

Maybe i’ve been brainwashed by propaganda, but i thought the submarines were like the elites. You had to be like pretty intelligent and mentally strong to get assigned to one of them?

In the US they just started having women on subs in the last 10 years or so I think….

Either the punishment for fraternization needs to be harsher, or they need to do a better job of weeding out predators.

Although it also needs to be a two way street: women on submarines should be discouraged from fraternization as well, it causes morale issues (and can spread STDs), and “unintended pregnancies” among enlisted servicewomen is higher than for civilians.

The navy shouldn’t short-change itself by not allowing trained women to serve on ships, but at the same turn both parties (servicemen and women) shouldn’t be fraternizing when the consequences means losing a trained crew member (pregnant women are not allowed aboard service vessels).

Weirdos and rejects on every platform honestly. Still, at most there could be 150+ on a sub with only 10 of them women? Maybe? Fuck that.

Saying more about yourself with that