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TarkovRatKing t1_iu3w5iu wrote

Good, governments who actively try to topple the West for their own tyranical purposes and hatred have no business enjoying from Western ammeneties and events.

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3dio t1_iu3wsqu wrote

We should show all their diplomats the door and disengage from any activity with this criminal fanatic government and its apologists

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EntropicFade t1_iu3x85a wrote

This is just the right thing to do morally Alfred Nobel would be proud.

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autotldr t1_iu3xuy3 wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 68%. (I'm a bot)

> COPENHAGEN, Denmark - The ambassador of Iran also been excluded from this year's Nobel Prize ceremony in Stockholm because of "The serious and escalating situation" in the country, the private foundation that administers the prestigious awards said Friday.

> "We believe that given the serious and escalating situation, Iran's ambassador should not be invited to the Nobel Prize award ceremony," the Nobel Foundation said in a statement.

> The Nobel Prizes are always handed out on Dec. 10, the anniversary of prize founder Alfred Nobel's death in 1896.

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lilfindawg t1_iu46t86 wrote

Not like their govt would ever produce something of a Nobel anyway unless there’s was a Nobel prize for oppression

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29PiecesOfSilver OP t1_iu48oy9 wrote

Well, I don’t think these countries had any chance of winning The Nobel Peace Prize next year, anyways.

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Abalone_Gonads t1_iu4bdae wrote

Jamaican Bobsled team has a better chance of winning 🥇 than religious conservatives excelling at the sciences. Their absence will be completely unnoticed by the community.

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3dio t1_iu4fheu wrote

Replying to furaisuwatto (#284,428)

Crisis for who? Diplomacy with who?

Seems to me that the people of Iran are having a crisis with their IR oppressors and need our support. I'm not saying intervene militarily but any other significant means. Cutting diplomatic ties with such regimes is not unheard of as a political statement

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connor42 t1_iu4hbsb wrote

Replying to 29PiecesOfSilver (#283,131)

The 2019 Nobel Peace Prize winner launched an ethnic war in 2020 where 600,000 are dead so far and whose forces have consistently used extrajudicial killings, rape and starvation on civilian populations

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prestonpiggy t1_iu4kp8d wrote

Does these sport/event bans really affect on anything? for me it's like elementary school kids having a sleepover and saying "you are not invited" like you are not cool enough, tbh that sounds more cruel.

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CarpeNoctome t1_iu4qlif wrote

Replying to dancingteam (#283,007)

genocide, illegal “police stations” in foreign countries, extreme suppression of the masses, constantly threatening a neighboring country with war, authoritarian police state, debt trapping more impoverished countries than i care to count, illegal occupation of large swaths of land and people… not the greatest place to be giving awards for greatness

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Smitty8054 t1_iu4u7y5 wrote

That’s a pity.

Iran has so much science and technology to offer the world.

/s if required

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ne0nite t1_iu4wx08 wrote

Replying to zyncronet (#287,357)

All people who fulfills the official criterias can be nominators. This is not controlled by the Nobel Institute, and a nomination means nothing before they are selected as candidates on the short-list by the Nobel Comittee.

Hitler was suggested as a joke by a Swede and withdrawn shortly after, and Stalin got a nomination for "his efforts to end World War II".

Again, nominations are not created by the Nobel Institute. I do agree that awarding Obama the prize was a stupid choice.

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0x4224 t1_iu4y7jo wrote

Consequences for actions, I like it.

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CarpeNoctome t1_iu4yk4c wrote

Replying to snake_w_arms (#288,587)

i mean if that’s what you have to tell yourself, then sure

the us has done and currently does a lot of bad things, but it literally cannot compare the atrocities committed by the chinese government. it’s an insult to anyone in the western sphere of influence to say so, and i think you knew that

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snake_w_arms t1_iu50jjj wrote

Replying to CarpeNoctome (#288,680)

The US has military stations all over the globe, why is it OK for the US but not China? The US suppresses information to the masses. Constantly threatening neighboring countries, ask Cuba how they’ve been treated by the US. The US is an authoritarian police state. Debt trapping countries, those are conveniently called “sanctions” by the US. Illegal occupation, the US just invaded Haiti for no reason.

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backflips_everyday t1_iu51926 wrote

Replying to red_dragon (#286,773)

I wouldn’t fully put them in that category, personally. If modern Russia is WW2 Germany, China is the USSR. They’re only on their side. Definitely not on yours or my side, but they’re not on anyone else’s side either.

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CarpeNoctome t1_iu51o6w wrote

Replying to snake_w_arms (#289,054)

the us is either asked or asks to install military bases, and generally it’s for the good of both countries. china uses those stations as a way to pressure and scare chinese expats to still follow chinese laws despite not living there anymore.

the united states suppresses what it needs to to the masses, as i can research any wrong doing, any war crime, any broken internationals laws, all legally and for free. you can’t do that in a lot of countries.

the us just handed cuba several million dollars in response to the damage caused by hurricane ian. you’re so well versed in caribbean happenings, you should know that.

the us has a problem with police brutality, to the point where i’ve heard red blooded republican conservatives admit it. we know it’s an issue, but it’s ingrained culturally into police, it’s not policy to shoot black people.

do sanctions against north korea, iran, russia, belarus, myanmar, venezuela, and so on not seem justified to you? countries that are either mass killing their own people, constantly threatening invasion, or actively nonchalantly bragging about how they can end the world?

and lastly, this is the absolute most stupid talking point i’ve heard come up recently. haiti is currently a chaotic hellhole run by cartels, gangs, and criminal syndicates. the government asked for a un, not us, but un intervention. would you consider the chinese un peacekeepers abandoning their post in sudan to be an invasion?

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foxx1337 t1_iu526ni wrote

Is this that Nober prize for which Bill Gates was buddies with Epstein, and hanging out often with said Epstein, finally leading to Gates' divorce? I remember court documents filed by Gates' attorneys stating that the Gates-Epstein friendship was due to Gates' need of couching / counseling / training for a Nobel Peace prize and not due to the other thing, the illegal underage girl sex.

Given this, isn't it desirable to not be invited to the Nobel prizes? On the other hand, if even the Nobel prizes don't invite you, how utterly shitty do you have to be, since child pimps are clearly not bad enough to not be Nobel gurus apparently? Tough times, complex morals...

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Mmm36sa t1_iu56yry wrote

Worthless anyway

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eskieski t1_iu58oi1 wrote

and the dictators keep growing🤣

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WrastleGuy t1_iu5aovo wrote

Hopefully the people of Iran can take back their country soon

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lilfindawg t1_iu5b84q wrote

Replying to jacksonbrownisahero (#284,463)

I want to make it clear, I’m not discounting Iranian scientists, and I don’t think a scientist is bad because they’re Iranian. I’m talking specifically of their govt, who funds research mostly in destruction. I have no doubt there are amazing Iranian scientists in general. In a government where woman are so low on the social ladder, I can’t see why one smart enough to be a scientist would choose to stay there. I think it’s amazing people are protesting to make it a better place for all.

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Van_is_Anders t1_iu5gk28 wrote

Damn, so much for all of them Iranian Nobel prize candidates who aren’t permitted to read anything except the Quran..

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AdClemson t1_iu5gpg5 wrote

Replying to 29PiecesOfSilver (#283,131)

Why not? Nobel peace prize generally goes to assholes who have no problem ordering and killing civilians. Obama even topped Bush in drone strikes killing countless innocent women and children with absolutely no oversight and he walked away with one.

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backflips_everyday t1_iu5hpdc wrote

Replying to red_dragon (#289,271)

In 50+ years the Chinese economy is going to be demolished by an aging population. They’re bottlenecked by population difference and they’re fucked no matter what they do, even if they have the worlds most progressive immigration policy, no one wants to move there.

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hypnoticlycaucasian t1_iu5je41 wrote

Replying to backflips_everyday (#292,237)

Silly westoid. Now that Xi has completed his glorious transformation to Mao 2.0, ... there will be ... but what about the all of the bad things the west has done, and they also have an ageing population! Thus it is safe to say that China will be fine and continue to prosper because hypocritical west and decadent liberal democracy does nothing for the real people.

Do you really do backflips every day, though?

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hypnoticlycaucasian t1_iu5jxyn wrote

Replying to mayonnaiser_13 (#286,037)

>muh drone strikes

Awarding the Peace Prize to Obama was absolutely a farce that drove one of plenty nails into the prize's credibility coffin, but whacking moles in the Middle East was not one of the reasons for that. Collateral wedding damages withstanding.

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Thelavapiranha t1_iu5mj8i wrote

Lets face it intelligence isent their strong point.

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nonono33345 t1_iu5mnmx wrote

Replying to red_dragon (#290,034)

Why? Are you completely ignoring all the aid Ukraine is getting to push back Russian aggression, short of foreign boots on the ground?

Nevermind. You don't seem like a logical thinker so I really don't care what you have to say. Just know that I think your conclusion sounds like a load of malarkey.

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colcannon_addict t1_iu5ov4x wrote

Not to worry, he won’t be Ambassador for much longer. The mullahs are finished, the whole country knows it. The Revolutionary Guard will (obviously) fill the void & return the status quo in whatever form, but there’ll be huge upheaval before that happens.

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hypnoticlycaucasian t1_iu5qlwi wrote

Replying to AdClemson (#292,864)

You seem to have made a mistake, as your link does not contain a representative list of Nobel Peace Prize laureates.

While we can all agree that for example Shirin Ebadi (2003, Iran, efforts for democracy and human rights, especially the rights of women and children), Wangari Muta Maathai (2004, Kenya, sustainable development, democracy and peace), the International Atomic Energy Agency (2005), Grameen Bank (2006, efforts to create economic and social development from below), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (2007), the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (2013), Malala Yousafzai (2014), the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons (2017), Denis Mukwege and Nadia Murad (2018, efforts to end the use of sexual violence as a weapon of war and armed conflict), Maria Ressa and Dmitry Muratov (2021, efforts to safeguard freedom of expression), and Memorial and the Centre for Civil Liberties (2022, documenting war crimes, human right abuses and the abuse of power) have all ordered(?) and killed civilians, there is no definitive proof that they did not have qualms about it.

You're doing a great job of holding these bloodthirsty monsters to account, as well as the corrupt Academy that enables their crimes. Give yourself a pat on the back for your informed and intelligent on the Nobel Peace Prize. There is no doubt that the lucky people who get to have conversations with you come away with the clear sentiment "Now that's a smart guy who really cares!"

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oldnuthammer t1_iu5r773 wrote

All this does is further delegitimatize the Nobel Prize as it is awarded to individuals. After Obama, the guy who invented the lobotomy, and Henry Kissinger...The award is all but meaningless.

Now they ban ambassadors to nations the West is angry with, introducing more political bias into an event that has desperately been trying to isolate itself from political bias and influence.

Good Job! A+

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Whatever4M t1_iu5rphq wrote

These kinds of threads always spawn the funniest comments, redditors think they can talk about the achievements of scientists by virtue of nothing but living in the west, literal nobodies thinking their opinions matter in the scientific community XD

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wakenbacons t1_iu5vais wrote

They should make a Nega-Nobel Prize for things like achievements in propaganda and greatest advancements into sovereign lands.

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GuitarGeezer t1_iu5zvwb wrote

So good to see Europe has a healthy sense of outrage at war crimes perped by autocrats-at least if it is done in Europe. Hey, it’s better than nothing and all 3 are unusually bad even as bad guy governments go.

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Emmerson_Brando t1_iu5zye6 wrote

Are Nobel prizes even legitimate anymore? Like the recent economics one where bailing out banks was actually good for the economy… completed by Ben bernanke, the guy who bailed out the banks, when Obama got the peace prize at the height of drone killings in Afghanistan where a hospital was hit killing dozens of civilians, seems pretty suspect to me.

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HumorSuspicious6183 t1_iu62ih7 wrote

Replying to CarpeNoctome (#286,978)

US has committed all of the things you listed. Genocide, check. Illegal police stations (CIA black sites), check. Extreme suppression of the masses, check. Constantly threatening countries with war, check. Authoritarian police state, check. Debt trapping countries, check. Illegal occupation, check.

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pika1001 t1_iu67sxl wrote

When NATO and Isreal?

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MaleficentPi t1_iu69ype wrote

Real question: what about the Ignobels

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shortwing8734 t1_iu6nbfe wrote

Replying to connor42 (#285,001)

This is pure fabrication. The war was started by an ethnically constituted party/regional government that launched a preemptive attack on the national forces of the country. They went on to take possession of the majority of the armaments for the army that happened to be stationed in the region they controlled.

There is no circumstance in which a leader of a country witnesses an attack on the national army, whose armaments (including long range missiles) are looted and doesn't respond with force, and that's what he did. That number of deaths you quoted isn't based on any evidence or data. There is also no evidence his forces "consistently" used extrajudicial killings or rape or starvation. A joint investigation with the UN already conducted proved as much.

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Historical-Teach-102 t1_iu7711v wrote

Replying to Dunkinmydonuts1 (#303,019)

Texas has almost twice as many registered firearms and since Texas has less regulations regarding ownership I would say its fair there are more. I don't live there so no dog in this hypothetical fight. If I was going to make any implication it wouldn't have been a veiled one.

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Spicyawesomesauce t1_iu7gecu wrote

Replying to Emmerson_Brando (#295,659)

The original ones - the big 3 (Physics, Chemistry, and Physiology/Medicine) are still legit af - more than any other major award I can think of (Fields might be well known idk) - if you’re an academic scientist, you’ll know whenever an NL from outside shows up on campus to give a guest lecture and you’ll want to go even if you have no clue what they may be talking about

Since the awards are given every year and all living people are considered for research conducted at any time, the quality and importance of the research being awarded is immense. It’s not “best discovery of the year,” but “who alive has contributed the most to this field” (or important discovery / - up to 3 can win each prize)

If you go down the list of each yearly awardee for the big 3, you’ll be hard-pressed to find some research that hasn’t profoundly impacted the world and your life. There is politics involved in the awards of course, and there have been notable snubs and occasional drama between awardees over credit, but overall it is the most prestigious award with significant legitimacy

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coyote_mercer t1_iu7ly6a wrote

As a scientist, this pleases me. Continue with the punishments, please.

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Rhannmah t1_iu9bxew wrote

Replying to zyncronet (#287,357)

I hate the fucking Nobel peace prize, it's based on literally nothing and just serves to cheapen the value of the real Nobels, those for science. The Literature prize can fuck off too.

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