Any elaboration on how they inspired?

Edit: just linking a 70 page pdf is not elaborating.

>schools preceded* (and outlasted) the Holocaust by a century. *and to some degree inspired.

What happened with residential schools is a tragedy and an horror but let us not redefine words to suit political/social trends. That you are even comparing residential schools with the holocaust and saying the latter was inspired by the former is ridiculous. Especially considering that the first residential school mass graves were found in the 1970s.

Genocide implies systematic and deliberate killing with the aim of destroying a race or nation. Was that the intent of the residential schools (no)? Were the death the results of murder or was it a result of lack of resources, lack of care and individuals in position of power (e.g., headmasters and priests) acting of their own volition? When and over what time period did the deaths happen?

Residential schools deaths: up to around 4,100 over 120 years mostly from things like lack of care, disease outbreaks (typhoid and tuberculosis) and fires. This represents about 5% of the people that attended the residential schools. The intent of those schools were to assimilate the children into western culture (presumably alive).

Holocaust: 6 million deaths over 4 years by systematic mass murders through nerve gas, combustion chambers and executions. The intent was to kill all Jews. Up to two thirds of the Europeen population of Jews were murdered.

Toggled a genocide

Why bother comparing them? Genocide happened in the past and happens to this day in various countries. All we can do is acknowledge it happened, stop it when it's going on, and try to prevent it from happening again. People do twisted shit, and good people have to find out and do whatever is needed at any given moment to promote fairness and inclusivity whenever possible

The oopsie comes with liability.

Legally and financially. Good on the Canadian government.

Immigrant taxpayers will pay for this, I can accept that.

My family was not involved in causing this. But, it's part of being Canadian and the heritage of this country. We benefit from living in Canada and we should pay our due.

What about the Catholic Church? They're going to get a free pass on this aren't they? Because if they capitulate here, they set a precedent around the would, and that is very bad for them cause they don't exactly have clean hands.

And a big piece to consider is no one currently in HoC would have been around to approve residential schools when they started. This is a different generation coming to terms and declaring that genocide happened at the hands of their predecessors

Would you consider 2006 a few years ago, in this context? Because I was in Grade 6 then and we learned about it at that time. I even did a short project presentation in my social studies class which was partly on residential schooling. Maybe my school just happened to be ahead of the curb here though, but I kinda doubt that. And even then, I’m quite confident that my parents (both boomers) knew all about this well over 20 years ago too.

Jesus Christ yeah that’s genocide

I will correct you on the years taught thing, since I was taught about them in the early-mid 2000s, but yes it has not been very long. and really going from 10 years to about 15 isn't a very good look either.

Not just the Roman Catholic Church but also the United, Anglican, Presbyterian, and Methodist Churches participated and ran schools. Many Christian denominations are implicated in these atrocities.

https://www.dorchesterreview.ca/blogs/news/in-kamloops-not-one-body-has-been-found

Which is also clearly explained in the article but why read an article when twentyfuckingletters can just shitpost.

Exactly. Let’s call it what it is but not treat it as genocide. Naming it should make all of the families feel much better. Right? Disgusting

Funny how “away” didn’t have a thing to say when those graves were unearthed. But save us from Tom Hanks!

No, and there’s no genocide in regard to killing, except in killing free will, creativity, and the right to be an individual. They ARE, however, forced to go to schools that teach them confusion, where everything is out of context with the real world. They’re taught too much: the orbiting of planets, the law of large numbers, slavery, adjective, architectural, drawing, dance, gymnasium, choral, singing, assemblies, s BBC urprise, guests, fire drills, computer language is, parents night, staff development days, pull out programs, guidance with strangers, that students may never see again, standardized tests, age segregation, unlike anything seen in the outside world… what do those have in common with one another?

They’re taught classism a through class position. They must stay in the class where they belong, they’re numbered so that if any get away, they can be returned to the right class. They are locked together with other children who bare numbers (grade level, test scores/ etc.) like their own. They’re taught to be in a marching order and to know their place. They’re told that their test scores will make employers hire them more easily based on how well they do.

They’re taught indifference, to not care too much about anything because once they get really going on something, the bell rings, and they have to just drop it and move onto the next thing whatever unrelated thing that is… The lesson of the bells.

They’re taught emotional dependency by stars, red check, smiles, and frowns, prizes, honors, and disgraces. They’re taught to surrender their will to the predestined chain of command. Rights may be granted or withheld by any authority without appeal because rights do not exist inside of the school not even the right of free speech as a Supreme Court has ruled unless school authorities say they do.

They’re taught intellectual dependency; good students wait for a teacher to tell them what to do is the most important in life lesson of all. We must all wait for other people better train than ourselves to make the meanings of our lives. The expert makes all the important choices only I can determine what my kids must study says the teacher , successful children do the thinking I assign them with a minimum of resistance when the decent show of enthusiasm.

They’re taught provisional self-esteem by getting a report card sent home to illicit approval through tiny percentage points, think of how dissatisfied with a child a parent should be. Good schooling depends on perpetuating dissatisfaction, just like the commercial economy depends on the same fertilizer.

They are taught they can’t hide they’re always being watched. There’s no private spaces for children and there’s no private time for them. They’re encouraged to tattle on each other even tattle in their own parents. They’re given an extended type of schooling called homework, so that the effect of surveillance, if not, the surveillance itself travels in the private household, where students might otherwise, he’s free time to learn something unauthorized from a mother and father by exploration her by apprenticing to some wise person in the neighborhood disloyalty that idea of schooling is a devil, always ready to find work for idle hands.

It is the great triumph of compulsory government, monopoly, math schooling that, among even the best of teachers in among even the best students only a small number can imagine a different way of doing things.

It is a slow genocide of the people, that’s what our current education system is.