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Frostbitten_Moose t1_je3t81x wrote

Reply to comment by MayaMiaMe in Police using ‘excessive force’ at France protests, rights groups say by rein_deer7

Considering each of those inanimate objects were made and bought with the proceeds of people spending their time, it's all shit that can be weighed on the same scale.

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qtpnd t1_je3uwf1 wrote

People have been paid for the time they gave, they have been compensated already, there is no tie from the time spent to the object anymore.

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Frostbitten_Moose t1_je419wj wrote

The people who built it, yes. The people who paid to currently own it? No.

That's a portion of their life being smashed.

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qtpnd t1_je41g2k wrote

That's what insurance is for.

edit: but yeah I do agree that I misunderstood his first message.

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Frostbitten_Moose t1_je41pld wrote

Insurance really isn't the magic fix people make it out to be. Not everything is insurable, having to deal with raising rates because of shit like this means having to spend more just to keep what you already have, and that's not including the fact that you need to spend time in order to get the insurance payout and then replace everything that got burned down.

And that's assuming it's practical to replace everything that got torched.

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flappers87 t1_je3x4f3 wrote

And if it was your house that got set on fire? What would you say then?

"Oh I already put time into developing my house and a safe place for my family... I don't need it anymore"?

Be real.

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qtpnd t1_je3xyum wrote

That is not what is happening, so I don't see why I'd have to consider that situation. The only burning things are trashes and public furnitures with no one and no one's stuff inside.

And as someone whose house already burnt by accident and almost died in it, thank you for making me relive those memories...

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flappers87 t1_je406dx wrote

I said something, and you tried to make it sound like I personally attacked you - like I know anything about your life...

Grow up. When you try to make it sound like you're being victimised because someone wrote a counter argument to your post, then you've already lost the argument.

And you're wrong. People's property are being destroyed.

Christ, they even set a town hall on fire, while there were people STILL INSIDE.

If you can't handle a discussion about these protests because it's triggering some form of PTSD, then perhaps you shouldn't be getting involved in the discussion.

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qtpnd t1_je40uhb wrote

>And if it was your house that got set on fire?

I mean, you talked about MY house, so yeah I felt personnally attacked.

In my original answer I just pointed out that in our economies the compensation for your time spent is monetary, and in general once that has been paid you have no ties to the produtcs of your work anymore. You are the ones who right away jumped the ship and talked about something totally different, i.e. my house, that I paid with my money and that is then tied to me. And this is totally different from talking about objects that people spent time working on but then sold and where properly compensated for it.

For the town hall if you are talking about bordeux, it was only the door that leads to a courtyard in a building with multiple exits designed to safely get crowds of people out in case of an emergency. No one was at risk of death or serious injury, and people where more sad for the historical value of the gate than anything.

edit: rereading your original comment, I might even have misunderstood it, but you could have kept the discussion civilised and discuss that, instead of right away going the emotion way.

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flappers87 t1_je41470 wrote

>I mean, you talked about MY house, so yeah I felt personnally attacked.

It was an example to show you being a hypocrite by supporting destruction of property while these protests don't affect you. If you felt "personally attacked" then you need to grow up and grow some thicker skin.

Since you can't have a discussion without feeling 'personally attacked' when there was CLEARLY no intention of that, then this thread is not worth continuing. I don't want you in tears because you decided to hop onto discussing a subject that triggers PTSD.

That sounds like a you-problem that you should deal with in your own time with a therapist, instead of taking it out on people on the internet.

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qtpnd t1_je41ecb wrote

Ok, let's go this way, show me articles that talk about private housees being set on fire on purpose?

And I'm not sure I'm a hypocrite since I'm french and the public equipment being set on fire has been paid with my taxes, so it is mine in some way.

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