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High-Scorer-001 t1_jadesjc wrote

It's insane how homosexuality has somehow become an evil western influence. Russia is guilty of this kind of propaganda, too.

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PEVEI t1_jadr6er wrote

The irony is that the virulent anti-gay stance in Uganda is the real Western influence, specifically from decades of right wing Christian missionaries.

Russia, being Russia, takes that pulls a DARVO.

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Rainbow-Death t1_jae7ep1 wrote

Yeah, I was in the navy and many guys from Uganda can (could? Maybe not anymore?) join the armed forces for citizenship and they were openly disgusted to any openly gay service member. The higher ups had a thought time when shit went down and they wanted to follow regulations while staying sympathetic to these indoctrinated homophobes.

What did I witness? Once some guy had his “rack” poured cooking oil in to- sounds stupid but when you’re out in deployment and you’re not hitting port it could be emotionally distressing. The rest were just nasty/crude/harassment of one type or another.

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Floodtoflood t1_jae9tyf wrote

Fucking weird that all the evil homosexual states are also the ones with the highest living standards

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skiptobunkerscene t1_jaelrs8 wrote

Where do you think its coming from? 70% of age old local cultural prejudice/homophobia + 30% of it from modern day russian propaganda pushing. All part of their anti western propaganda push especially in Africa.

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Temporala t1_jaevcl0 wrote

Ugandan homophobia was imported there from United States, by rich ultra-conservative evangelicals.

They offered money and told that in exchange for that, "you could wink wink make life harder for dem gays, because Jesus says so and so do we". They took the bribes and began to pursue that policy. It's sick. Those maggots bribed a government to abuse and kill its own citizens, for not reason at all.

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dowhatmelo t1_jaf4x64 wrote

I mean you can't deny that it's far more prevalent in western media than it is in the real world.

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supercyberlurker t1_jadjknz wrote

So.. is how this works.. that civil-rights inherently mean protection for minorities, which means protection for gay people, so any push for civil-rights can be reframed by oppressive regimes as "promoting homosexuality" and then they can push-back against those civil-rights and people will support it?

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evolution22 t1_jae27sg wrote

The meme 'Why are you gae' originated from an Ugandan talk show. I wonder how or if the viral nature of that meme had any impact on this discussion.

Also, there's one 'western element that is failed to be showcased in this rhetoric.. that is the commodification of children by parents is not acceptable. Your children aren't your objects to sell or to be bartered with. You also don't own your spouse and you don't dictate someone's likes or dislikes as long as it doesn't go against basic laws. (It also ensures children, women and minority groups have educational freedoms that leads to a more educated society).

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No_Sense_6171 t1_jadvzkb wrote

Corrupt regimes always need an out-group to persecute, in order to distract attention from the corruption.

Allowable substitutes: Commies, Nazis, Trans people, minorities, women, educators, etc.

It's in their rule book, look it up.

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Vineyard_ t1_jaf2rsx wrote

I mean, Nazis are always and should always be an acceptable target.

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7evenCircles t1_jaetokt wrote

While true, I think that's too reductive. There needs to be an appreciation that different places exist on different points of the sociopolitical development curve. Minorities didn't have rights in the West, until they did. We had to get there in our own time. That was a fight and a struggle, even with all the advantages we had. Today it's obviously true that identity and immutable characteristics are not good grounds to deprive people of rights, but everything is obvious after you know the answer. You cannot spin up a modern socially liberal society on demand with no regard for what that society and culture currently is. I think the Afghanistan adventure demonstrates that. If they don't get there on their own, it doesn't stick. Modernity can't be prescribed onto a state. So what part of this is political gamesmanship and what part is organic? I don't know, but it stands to reason it's at least both.

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Sab_moh_maya_hain t1_jad8w5n wrote

Human rights are human rights regardless of whether the country wants to remain traditional or not. Yes you don’t have to accept certain philosophies but you CAN NOT go and cause harm to people that don’t subscribe to your ideology.

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AryaNunya t1_jad8qad wrote

Backward people eating their own. I hope the few remaining societies around the world like these stop killing themselves soon.

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autotldr t1_jadc2ob wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 72%. (I'm a bot)

> Kampala - Uganda will propose a new anti-gay bill on Wednesday, the speaker of the country's parliament said, as conspiracy theories accusing shadowy international forces of "Promoting homosexuality" flood social media.

> Frank Mugisha, executive director of leading gay rights organisation Sexual Minorities Uganda, which was suspended by the authorities last year, told AFP that he had already been inundated with calls from LGBTQ people over the proposed law.

> Under colonial-era laws, homosexual acts are illegal in Uganda but since independence from Britain in 1962 there has never been a conviction for consensual same-sex activity.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Uganda^#1 bill^#2 Among^#3 AFP^#4 homosexuality^#5

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ty_kanye_vcool t1_jaebr2r wrote

Pulls up Facebook I have taken the time to do a little research

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