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opheodrysaestivus t1_j64w9ny wrote

>“they didn’t need to kill him it’s just a car”

...do you think this is an unfair statement?

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CowboyAirman t1_j65sqik wrote

Where do you draw your line?

“they didn’t need to kill them. It’s just a house.”

Why is a car different? If you came in my house with a gun I’d shoot you as well.

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opheodrysaestivus t1_j65ulwb wrote

Personally I don't believe anyone deserves to die over property. I especially don't believe the police should get to decide who dies.

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CowboyAirman t1_j660shx wrote

The one using lethal force against me decided. When will you understand this? What, they have to pull the trigger first?

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opheodrysaestivus t1_j69lfwh wrote

I'm not saying you can't defend yourself in these situations. What I'm saying is no one's life is worth a fucking car. If you think otherwise that's just sad.

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CowboyAirman t1_j69m7j0 wrote

This is backpedaling via a strawman. Literally no one has claimed or inferred otherwise. It’s always been about defending from aggression. But I will not feel bad for anyone that is killed who was using lethal force to take from others.

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jameson71 t1_j66c5os wrote

Personally I don’t believe you or any other citizen should get to decide what property of mine I will be allowed to keep.

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opheodrysaestivus t1_j69krw6 wrote

I'm not sure what you're talking about, I said no one deserves to die over stolen property. I didn't say anything about what you are "allowed" to keep, whatever that means

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The_Herder12 t1_j6602q0 wrote

Yes I do, they are committing a violent act this isn’t someone jumping in because you left your keys in it this is someone pulling a firearm on you and ripping you out of your vehicle

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opheodrysaestivus t1_j69l81b wrote

That's pretty grim. you're creating an excuse for the death penalty for crimes of desperation.

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