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sumpdiddlyump_ t1_ixzuniq wrote

Reply to comment by xanadumuse in The Exceptionally American Problem of Rising Roadway Deaths (includes a focus on pedestrian and cyclist deaths in DC) by woulditkillyoutolift

Just curious, but which other countries? Non-US road systems almost always feel so chaotic to me.

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FatCats2fat t1_iy1jnxo wrote

Chaotic isn't necessarily bad. Part of the problem with our roads is that they're so wide and straight that drivers feel safe going way too fast.

To an extent, uncomfortable drivers are more cautious, slower, and safer.

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sumpdiddlyump_ t1_iy4s006 wrote

Yeah, that’s my thinking too. The reason other countries have fewer road deaths is precisely because it’s so uncomfortable to drive, making for cautious drivers.

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xanadumuse t1_ixzzao0 wrote

I just got back from a biking trip in Ireland and I felt safe there. I’ve also biked in parts of Spain, Netherlands and Belgium. Hell even Mexico with its erratic drivers at least moves over for their drivers and don’t get so upset when someone is in their “ personal space”.

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