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stephiereffie t1_ixzr3ib wrote

Reply to comment by Brickleberried in The Exceptionally American Problem of Rising Roadway Deaths (includes a focus on pedestrian and cyclist deaths in DC) by woulditkillyoutolift

Nah, sorry. Not fair.

The problems that cars cause vs the problems that pedestrians or bikes cause are in such different magnitude, to bring it up is obviously not in good faith.

Cars kill people, bikes inconvence people.

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Professional-Can1385 t1_ixzuygy wrote

I can only control my actions, not any one else’s.

As a pedestrian who does not have a metal cage for protection, that means I try to be aware of cars and not do stupid stuff around them that could get me hurt.

Everyone has a responsibility to be safe, but you can’t control anyone else.

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Abitconfusde t1_ixzrype wrote

> Cars kill people

Whoa, there pal. Next you'll be saying that guns kill people. Settle down and think a little bit. Everybody knows that only people kill people. /s

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Brickleberried t1_iy00eqq wrote

Bikers risk their own lives when they don't follow the rules of the road.

Edit: I'm getting downvoted for this, but this is objectively correct. Bikers are so fucking mad that they're getting injured or killed, but also get mad when they're told to follow rules of the road that will help keep them safer. The people who do this are just whiny jackasses.

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stephiereffie t1_iy01y9g wrote

Okay, cool.

From my gooogling, looks like about 400 people died in single vehicle bicycle accidents in 2020.

On the other hand, 6516 pedestrians were mowed down by cars in 2020.

They're not comparable.

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Brickleberried t1_iy02ugv wrote

I'm not sure how that disproves my statement that both bikers and pedestrians can be crazy, which endangers their own lives.

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stephiereffie t1_iy0mgfx wrote

I'm not disproving it, I'm pointing out how inconsequential your statement is. Who gives a crap about the damage bicyclists do to themselves? We care about the damage cars can do to pedestrians.

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Brickleberried t1_iy0pxf2 wrote

> Who gives a crap about the damage bicyclists do to themselves?

So you don't actually care about the safety of bikers?

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stephiereffie t1_iy0s1k9 wrote

I think folks have the right to hurt themselves if they want.

That's obviously not the case when a car hits pedestrian.

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stephiereffie t1_iy0suzi wrote

>Edit: I'm getting downvoted for this, but this is objectively correct. Bikers are so fucking mad that they're getting injured or killed, but also get mad when they're told to follow rules of the road that will help keep them safer. The people who do this are just whiny jackasses.

Omg, no they're not. They're irritated when the conversation is "with all the traffic fatalities, how can we make the road infrastructure safer for cyclists and pedestrians? ", and some dude rolls in with "we don't need to change driving habits or our roads, the bikes need to stop running redlights!"

Like no crap dude, but let's spend more time working on the 6000 deaths.

Also, if you're getting down voted, take a look in the mirror and ask... Why?

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Brickleberried t1_iy102xl wrote

> and some dude rolls in with "we don't need to change driving habits or our roads,

I didn't say that though.

Y'all just don't like when you have to change how you operate too.

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