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Kitchen_Software t1_je680yj wrote

What kind of gathering/attendance are we talking about? 10 toddlers and ~20 adults with room to roam and bring toys/entertainment?

My first instinct was City State Brewing, but I personally wouldn't say it's setup to accomodate that many people, especially toddlers.

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[deleted] OP t1_je6i8c2 wrote

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Kitchen_Software t1_je6rwct wrote

I specifically mentioned City State because they promote themselves as a place where parents can enjoy themselves with their kids. They have even had kid-focused events in the past. I tried to note that it's probably not great for a party or more than a few people in a single group.

You may choose not to patronize that establishment as a result, but your callousness is pretty jarring.

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johnbrownbody t1_je6x3lr wrote

OP thinks that kids should be banned from breweries and that breweries are strip clubs in terms of how appropriate they are for children. So there is that.

Callousness is certainly one way to describe it lol.

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[deleted] OP t1_je71jet wrote

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johnbrownbody t1_je75vpd wrote

Oh it's sarcasm how you think kids should be banned from breweries. I agree a downside of the internet is you get shitty opinions stuffed in your face with absolute confidence, from folks who claim sarcasm when your point out their shitty takes. Fuck off now.

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celj1234 t1_je6nmm2 wrote

100%! Go to a kid friendly place that they will enjoy.

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johnbrownbody t1_je6nt75 wrote

> a specific place kids shouldn’t be

If the bar or brewery or whatever allows kids, then this is just .. what.. your belief that kids shouldn't be allowed somewhere?

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[deleted] OP t1_je6o5av wrote

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johnbrownbody t1_je6olyo wrote

> In this specific case how bad of a parent are you to not let your kid choose where they have their birthday party and, worse, pick a brewery for their party so you can drink.

Depends how old the kid is, they may not have a preference at all. Do you think a two year old cares where their birthday is? Or a one year old? How bad of a person are you for judging someone going to a nice outdoor space where kids are allowed?

> Call me crazy for thinking kids shouldn’t be allowed at a place for drinking. Keep them at home or get a babysitter.

I mean, am I allowed to bring a kid to a brunch place? People go to brunch explicitly to drink, and I not allowed to go there? Am I allowed to take them anywhere that is primarily for drinking? Secondary drinking? Anywhere assholes might object to a parent taking a child? Alternatively, let other people live their fucking life.

I dont really care what you think about kids at breweries, fwiw. You can keep your bad opinions about parenting to yourself, no need to post bad opinions on the internet and be proud about your bad opinions.

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[deleted] OP t1_je6p49y wrote

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johnbrownbody t1_je6um0l wrote

>Drinking is an adult activity, and should be limited to adults only where the sole purpose is to drink.

Who is advocating for binge drinking at a kids birthday party? No need to strawman or maybe you do need to to make your argument even moderately effective.

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johnbrownbody t1_je6uvnf wrote

"the sole purpose is drinking"

Who said anything about the sole purpose being drinking in the first place?

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steveaustin69 t1_je6qio7 wrote

i was with you until you just kept going. it’s just not that deep.

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steveaustin69 t1_je6rysg wrote

lol whatever man. downvoting me cuz i disagreed with you? are you 12? there are scenarios where having a two year olds bday at a brewery are completely fine. you talked in black and whites like it’s absolutely abhorrent to even consider it. get a grip.

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[deleted] OP t1_je6sfvk wrote

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Wheresmycardigan t1_je6sbyr wrote

>Am I allowed to take them anywhere that is primarily for drinking?

Is this a rhetorical question? Lol No These are adult spaces that were designed and intended for adults. There are reasons why bars and breweries have to explicitly specify they are 21+ over or 21+ over hours.

Same reason why there's family friendly or kid centric where it's explicitly advertised as kids welcomed places or part of their business plan to serve families.

Anyone remember the Midlands parents drama that cause to post age restricted hours??? 👀

ETA: Metrobar of good example. Addressing this and has specific hours and parameters.

"We are proud to be a gathering place for the community, and to welcome families as well as pets into our venue. However, first and foremost, this is an adult space. It is not a park or a playground. We kindly ask that you follow our rules so everyone can enjoy this space. No one – adult, child, or pet – should disrupt anyone else’s experience at metrobar.

Children and Families Children must be within arms length under direct supervision of their guardian at all times. For certain events / nights after 7pm, children under 12 are not allowed. Infants that are not yet of walking age are allowed We do not allow toys that cause any temporary or permanent marks on our guests or property, such as: chalk, yard games, balls, etc."

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johnbrownbody t1_je6szo8 wrote

>There are reasons why bars and breweries have to explicitly specify they are 21+ over or 21+ over hours.

And yet many allow kids, and many breweries are family friendly.

I will avoid brunch because it will trigger you to see a child. Na, I won't.

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[deleted] OP t1_je6tyb1 wrote

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johnbrownbody t1_je6uage wrote

Kids cannot eat from the kids menu at breweries?

Last time I checked they can.

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[deleted] OP t1_je6ujzw wrote

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johnbrownbody t1_je6urwp wrote

So if the primary purpose of an establishmemt is drinking then children should not be present?

Do you have a revenue % in alcohol sales cutoff where kids aren't allowed to be at an establishment? Or is this authoritarianism vibe based

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johnbrownbody t1_je6vkvz wrote

> Do you have a revenue % in alcohol sales cutoff where kids aren't allowed to be at an establishment? Or is this authoritarianism vibe based

So businesses that either sell or produce their own alcohol for distribution cannot chose to catern to parents to bring their children? You have decided that kids are not allowed at these establishments. Again, any revenue rule of thumb or is your authoritarian belief completely vibe based? I wouldnt want to break the imaginary rules in your head, of course not!

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[deleted] OP t1_je6vxi4 wrote

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johnbrownbody t1_je6w2yl wrote

Do you think strip clubs and breweries are the same?

No need to strawman your opposition unless your argument is very bad! But you keep doing it.

You refuse to answer simple questions like "can businesses that sell primarily alcohol cater to parents and children." if you think the answer is no then just admit you want to ban that behavior, and we can go on our separate ways. No need to create silly strawman arguments.

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[deleted] OP t1_je6w909 wrote

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johnbrownbody t1_je6wo2g wrote

> dragging your kid to

Your personal issues with going places as a kid aren't really relevant here. If you think that strip clubs and breweries are so similar then this is really not a very interesting conversation. Again, whatever your personal issues are with children or had as a child going places are your own, and don't impact anyone else.

> You refuse to answer simple questions like "can businesses that sell primarily alcohol cater to parents and children." if you think the answer is no then just admit you want to ban that behavior, and we can go on our separate ways. No need to create silly strawman arguments.

No need to answer this simple question. I'll just ignore you now.

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Surefinewhatever1111 t1_je78q6a wrote

>Should kids be allowed at strip clubs too?

Maybe? Figure staff could use on site daycare.

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Wheresmycardigan t1_je6vijv wrote

What? I didn't mention anything about brunch lol Restaurants are food places with side of bar.

I think posting 21+ hours is beneficial for everyone.

It just baffled me in your questioning that there would be anyone who when they decided to have kids and embark on parenthood, it was assumed or there was a line of thinking that you could go to places that are primarily drinking like pre kids but just bring your kid?

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johnbrownbody t1_je6vtcq wrote

> I think posting 21+ hours is beneficial for everyone.

Where did I say that there shouldn't be 21+ hours? OP is arguing that bars and breweries should ban children.

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Wheresmycardigan t1_je6y11o wrote

I mentioned the hours lol

Children should not be in bars. I don't understand how this is controversial...

Breweries? Sure have at it parents. But bars are for adults.

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ChewbaccaDust t1_je6zmt4 wrote

Thanks for your opinion. Have you ever had a conversation with a three year old about what they want to eat/drink/do for fun? They can barely talk. It’s incredibly selfish of you to expect that public places that you decide to visit should be off limits to families with young kids.

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NPRjunkieDC t1_je777iz wrote

Mixing alcohol and kids in a public space doesn't sound like a good idea. It's hard to keep an eye on little kids running around

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Surefinewhatever1111 t1_je78xfi wrote

The French laugh at your puriteen naïveté.

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NPRjunkieDC t1_je7970b wrote

They can laugh but a friend lost a young sister in a similar situation. Parents socializing, drinking probably near a pool .

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Surefinewhatever1111 t1_je79e6f wrote

Lord Jesus and everything. Lots of people driving sober leave their kids in cars on hot days. Come on already.

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Wheresmycardigan t1_je6zcrx wrote

I'd also recc'd OP check the events calendar. Last I went there on Saturday afternoon, doing brewery trail there was a DJ so the music was pretty loud (almost too loud for me). Tho there are arcade games, tables take up most of the space so not a lot of room for movement or to roam between conversation. Kids were tripping left and right running around since it was Iike a maze to them lol there were spilled beers

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