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mojitz t1_j54xy5m wrote

>life will get to the point where it sucks badly enough for all normal Americans that votes will cease to be the primary method for driving political change

They already have — at least at the national level. We live in an effective oligarchy where the "democratic" institutions at our disposal are so poor that the public serves more of an advisory role than anything else. We've just deluded ourselves into believing our own propaganda about "freedom" and "democracy." At the end of the day, though, most of our problems boil down to precisely a lack of those things.

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cryospam t1_j558495 wrote

We're almost there, and it scares the shit out of me. It will come to a point where this country is going to explode into civil war.

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mojitz t1_j55963l wrote

Not to get too bleak, but honestly the odds are just as good if not better that we just sort of slowly degrade into a more and more openly authoritarian state without much of any significant resistance to speak of.

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cryospam t1_j5610ow wrote

I'm not sure I agree. There are a large number of Americans who would become active domestic terrorists under an actual authoritarian fascist government.

It is not just the far right who are amassing firepower.

Politicians go down with one bullet just like anyone else. Piss off the majority of Americans and it will explode into civil war, and then politicians become legitimate targets of that war.

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