Submitted by MissJudgeGaming t3_zy66g1 in vermont
FyuckerFjord t1_j2446lr wrote
Still, there is something to say about living in the upper class liberal parts of the south - especially tech areas. The people are nicer, food is better, community is more diverse, the taxes and cost of living is lower, customer service is still a thing - so is same day delivery and getting a tradesperson to your home on the same day you need them. Raleigh will always hold a special place in my heart. Too bad the rest of the state exists.
LadyFenris13 t1_j25wjzl wrote
I was just having this conversation with someone today. The only places worth visiting and living in the South are liberal areas, like Raleigh or Asheville. I lived in Raleigh for about a year before I moved in with my boyfriend who lives in a more conservative city because of his job. The difference is night and day. Unless you live in a liberal hub down here, all you get are shitty chains, shitty food, and unfriendly people.
Americ-anfootball t1_j294jcg wrote
This is a profoundly ignorant take
MissJudgeGaming OP t1_j24ubwl wrote
I will concede there is a distinct aura of convenience around those areas too. I find it needs balance though, being able to go out and get anything I need at any moment is too alluring!
Websters_Dick t1_j27cq9m wrote
Those affluent liberal areas are built off the exploitation of slave labor (and segregation after the civil war) and the continued existence of a laboring class that can barely afford to put a roof over thier heads and food on the table (which continues to be mostly minorities). The hierarchy that exists and is perpetrated in the south is magnitudes worse than anything that exists up here. And Customer service, you mean the labor class that has to pretend to be nice to you or else they could fall into further poverty?
FyuckerFjord t1_j27gh8x wrote
You live in the whitest state in America. STFU LOL
Here's the breakdown of where I lived in a burb of Raleigh: Asian (Non-Hispanic) (39.3%), White (Non-Hispanic) (38.1%), Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (12.4%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (4.57%), and White (Hispanic) (1.98%).
80% were US Citizens. Not too segregationist, eh? Which way did Vermont go from the Civil War?
Websters_Dick t1_j28ty30 wrote
Are you so fucking dense as to think that any of what you posted counters what I literally said? The reason those areas have the money they do is literally because of the wealth they stole while being built, and maintained through the exploitative system we live in. It has nothing to do with the current racial breakdown of any specific area. But look here, it's a liberal who would rather ignore the reality of how those wealthy liberal areas built their weath and then blame the rest of the state for their reactionary politics.
Weird, because Raleigh, NC had a pretty extensive redlining policy in effect long after the passing of the Civil Rights act. Wonder if that had anything to do with generational wealth unable to be built in impoverished communities.
And if you think I have problems with just the south, wait until you hear what I think needs to be done to correct the harms done to the indigenous communities in the US both north and south.
Vermont doesn't have the same issues that I noted in the same way, because Vermont wasn't built from slave plantations. But never once did I claim that Vermont doesn't benefit from the underlying white supremacist hierarchy in America.
Check_Affectionate t1_j2f6f4s wrote
Vermont, as a colony, was founded upon the benefits of the slave trade as was every English, Dutch, Potrtugese and French colony of the era. Abolishing slavery earlier is a very narrow distinction.
And we continued to discriminate against Catholics, Jews and POC until the last 50 years.
FyuckerFjord t1_j28vp4z wrote
Ah yes. The Research Triangle (look it up) is booming right now because of slavery.
Anyways, by your logic, you just said you live in a place that benefits from white supremacy so your points are as moot as mine.
Take that same energy into the activist community, but please don't make your thesis "You should hate everywhere you live and feel guilty you fucking scumbag." I didn't ask to be born.
Websters_Dick t1_j2900h0 wrote
I'm well aware of the research triangle. I spent time both in High Point and in Raleigh. Are you saying that the wealth generated by the unpaid labor of slaves just vanished after the civil war? What a moronic statement. Guess what, it's almost like those buildings were built using slave labor and the communities that built them were able to build almost no generational wealth due to the economic policies in those regions both before and after the civil war.
You did it! We live in a society therefore we cannot criticize the negative parts of it! What an excellent worldview, I'm sure that leads to great improvement and not a constant stagnation and continuation of the status quo, even when it's inherently harmful to the general population.
Never said you had to hate it, just said you had to recognize it. You seem to have some trouble with reading comprehension. That next day labor and smiling customer service you see down in the south? Yeah, it's there because of the radial effects of slavery and continued poverty. Doesn't mean you need to hate it, just means you need to see it and acknowledge it. Vermont's tourism dollars and farm subsidies? You guessed it, tied to white supremacy and the removal of indigenous peoples from their land. I'm not the one who is ignoring it and trying to make excuses for it. That's you.
No shit bud, none of us asked to be born. But some of us are making excuses for the negative shit perperuated by society and some of us are working to correct those things
Stormy_Anus t1_j2dfruc wrote
^ this is the type of people you get in Vermont. Exactly why I moved out
FyuckerFjord t1_j291isl wrote
Ah, I see what you're doing. But virtue signaling isn't like an FSA - you can roll some over into next year. Hope that helps!
Websters_Dick t1_j292mgi wrote
Sorry reality makes you uncomfortable. Don't worry, you're just as much a garbage human being no matter where you live. Hope that helps!
FyuckerFjord t1_j294a9i wrote
Lol cool. BYW, your blind rage needs focus if you're going to change the world - you just spent 5 hours of your life internet-screaming at someone who is at least as left - if not farther - than you.
Good fucking job.
Websters_Dick t1_j294pp5 wrote
Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds
FyuckerFjord t1_j295k2y wrote
Said left not liberal - take your canned, college-freshman fervor back to the Bruins fanboi boards lol
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