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[deleted] t1_iryejga wrote

This is a sad story that speaks to more than the housing shortage. He is a disabled veteran with substance abuse disorder, unable to support himself due to health issues and lack of skills, and he doesn’t seem to understand that tenants can be asked to follow certain rules. He needs housing but he also needs health care, substance abuse counseling and help navigating life as a successful renter

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LukeMayeshothand t1_iryltud wrote

Honestly what do you do? The housing situation has been getting worse for 20 years at least right?

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ninthamendment t1_iryuuca wrote

Agreed, and it’s part of what makes it such a great article. Housing is incredibly complicated since it’s something that everyone needs no matter who they are or what their ability levels may be. We need to see it in all its complication.

This guy messed up, and he admits that, though perhaps he may have trouble understanding that. He has little to no safety net, a minimal income, and yet needs a place to live like everyone else.

I think you’re right: we need to think about housing more holistically. We need to think about how to support people who may have a diminished capacity, who may be disruptive to the community. Because they all need a place to live, even the most difficult cases, just like everyone else.

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Treestyles t1_irz4qpr wrote

The problem is lack of freedom. The govt actively prevents people from living off the land, from finding a spot and building a place to live. The excuses vary from case to case, but at the core is intolerance and a refusal to leave others alone.

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UncoolDad31 t1_is03gju wrote

This guy used to be my neighbor. He once barged into my house drunk, through the front door while I was at work, and started yelling at my girlfriend because he didn’t like the plumber that was working in my basement. He’s not a bad guy, but definitely a tough neighbor. Hope he is able to find some housing though.

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Maleficent_Rope_7844 t1_is07kg4 wrote

Are you saying the solution is that people pony up $50k to buy an acre of land somewhere, more money to build a shelter, then proceed to hunt and garden for all of their food needs? Most land in Vermont is privately owned. The rest is state owned (state forests, etc.) Also, living off the land in a state with cold winters is especially difficult.

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RevolutionaryAd678 t1_is0m8p5 wrote

I always hear about how grumpy Dan is, but when I went homeless in St Albans, he tried his hardest to get me into the shelter and hooked me up with a whole bunch of supplies. He introduced me to so many people and had so many resources to share.

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mycophdstudent t1_is0pxth wrote

It's NIMBYism, where the same folks who complain about the limited housing supply also work against solutions for housing by pushing after policies that disencentive developers from developing.

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ComplexGreens t1_is1ir7l wrote

The article mentioned Pathways a lot and implied that they weren't helpful.

Is there any insight on that? Is it that housing is in such short supply so organizations like Pathways is hamstrung? Is it that they too are suffering from staffing?

It seemed to me that the subject of the article needs a caseworker, someone to empower him but also be a handholder while he gets the help he needs. But if anyone has more insight on Pathways I'm curious how they have or have not helped in the past.

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squish261 t1_isaha5c wrote

Bullshit. This line of thinking is incredibly ignorant. Housing without stipulations has no place in society. It lacks accountability. It also has proven unsuccessful.

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