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Hagardy t1_iu79317 wrote

Given that about half of Vermont students already attend tuition free, I suspect someone crunched the numbers are realized this would only be a few people but the press would be fantastic.

The bigger problem is by continuing to freeze course fees without creating alternative revenue streams class outcomes are being directly harmed. Chemistry supplies haven’t gotten any cheaper, but the fee revenue has stayed flat, same for every other class supply. Endlessly increasing costs are bad, but just not teaching things because we can’t afford to buy the basics also isn’t great. There’s a lot of smoke and mirrors or ponzi-adjacent accounting happening here until the president can get a better job at a bigger school.

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RandolphCarter15 OP t1_iu7b0uw wrote

Yep. And cutting things like dining options so students have to wait an hour to get lunch because there's only a few places to go. At some point that's going to hurt admissions

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Pig_Pen_g2 t1_iu6imyy wrote

What about a single adult male who makes less than $60k a year??

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justreadthearticle t1_iu71xqr wrote

If they're older than like 26 (or something like that) and living alone then probably. If they're under 26 or have roommates who bump their combined income to over $60k then probably not.

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mediumeasy t1_iueo1v7 wrote

your roommates income never factors into your household income afaik

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Ok_Reference_9222 t1_iu6haam wrote

Vermont reporters don’t know how to ask questions. They will take a press release and pretend it is the result of their “reporting”

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s0meb0dyElsesProblem t1_iu6wpt6 wrote

Better yet using Twitter posts as news is lazy and not journalism

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LeftLake7586 t1_iu6n9qa wrote

Do the people applying from a household under 60k have the same admissions possibilities as everybody else?

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justreadthearticle t1_iu719ax wrote

Yes. UVM has need blind admission. If people are concerned about that being an issue they can just hold off on filling a FAFSA until after they get their decision. That way schools won't know their household income.

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SirAidandRinglocks t1_iu6cx0a wrote

Will they accept those students?

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deadowl t1_iu6g8jm wrote

Can you even afford to have a family in Vermont at under $60k/yr anymore?

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8Dyl8 t1_iu6oue0 wrote

That answer is no. Sadly.

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justreadthearticle t1_iu710dl wrote

They accept lower quality students from Vermont than they do from out of state.

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Fien16 t1_iu8a6rf wrote

No they don't, they can charge out of state more. They have to accept a certain amount of Vermont students but believe me they're accepting the fewest they can.

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vtjohnhurt t1_iud87kd wrote

I don't know if this is actually true, but it makes sense to preferentially accept and educate some students that have family ties to the state even if out-of-staters have better scores. Students from Vermont are more likely to stay in the state after college. It is in the state's interest to have a better educated workforce living here even if they're not the best and brightest in the nation.

On the other hand, there are benefits to admitting some highly qualified students from out of state, so a balance needs to be struck. A rising tide lifts all boats.

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Loosh_03062 t1_iu6h710 wrote

Considering the admission requirements on the web site are lower than most high schools' graduation requirements, probably. The only thing stopping a rising high school senior from being eligible is the fourth year of English (which some creative and/or motivated kids can get through doubling up on English courses if the high school will let it fly).

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RandolphCarter15 OP t1_iu6hhhr wrote

There's been a big shift towards wealthier out of state students in recent years

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Hagardy t1_iu9ry7h wrote

Vermont has the lowest dollar and per capita support for higher ed in the country, state contribution is something like 5% of the budget, where in other states it’s 20-40%.

This forces a reliance on tuition dollars to stay afloat, leading to heavy out of state recruitment.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_iu77nz5 wrote

Back about 30 years ago UVM was caught accepting out of state students over in state students in order to get the higher tuition from them. UVM also say if you move to VT to attend UVM, even if you rent or buy a house, you are charged out of state tuition.

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justreadthearticle t1_iu716q7 wrote

In state students are more likely to get accepted. They just get way, way more out of state applicants than in state applicants.

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stogorec t1_iu8ujrr wrote

> Will it comes from admin

We can only hope

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