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Corey307 t1_jbc294z wrote

Reply to comment by amoebashephard in Need some Vermonter words of affirmation by xohannasunx

Yeah no, very few people are moving to ME, NH and VT because of climate change. The population of Vermont has stayed pretty much steady 20 years, the housing shortage is caused by people buying vacation homes and buying homes to Airbnb.

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_jbcvakj wrote

I know three people who moved here from the SW because they were tired of annual forest fires. It's anecdotal sure, but there are people moving to the NE to escape climate change.

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Corey307 t1_jbd1ghc wrote

I’m sure they exist it’s just not a common thing. I do think it’s funny because I wanna know shit about people move here thinking they’ll be able to ride out the future without realizing right what about food production is going to be a real problem with bizarre weather causing crop loss worldwide. We’ve already seen it last year in the US, most of Europe and China. That’s why I am want to get more land, to prepare for food insecurity.

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_jbd1ldv wrote

Not a bad idea

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Corey307 t1_jbd4611 wrote

It’s a combination of fearing food shortages and enjoying gardening and raising trees. We don’t have long growing seasons but that can be mitigated by starting your garden inside. I learned the hard way that it’s smart to put extra mulch on young fruit trees and to wrap them for winter after losing some.

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Smeedge_Kilgannon t1_jbd8fl8 wrote

That's less climate change and more the result of terrible and nonexistent management and droughts caused by pot and almond farm out that way.

We as humans are completely responsible for it, but it's not because of headlined reasons and the headlined solutions won't fix it.

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_jbe8fgw wrote

Oh they just need to rake the forests right?

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Smeedge_Kilgannon t1_jbhnv3k wrote

If that's the way a simpleton like you can grasp the concept, then yes, they need to sweer the forest floor.

You have two choices. Logging and land management conservation working together or uncontrollable wildfires forever. Even the Natives new this 1,000 years ago. Then again, the natives didn't need to cause drought with pot and almond farms.

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_jbhrwzt wrote

Is that what Tucker Carlson is telling you guys these days?

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Smeedge_Kilgannon t1_jbhumpi wrote

IS that the best deflection response you can muster? Are you banking on the the fact that since i think your ideas are dumb that I must be some sort of neocon? Take your half assed excuse for a reply over to whitepeopleoftwitter or the politics sub. You have no power here.

If there was video evidence of improper forestry habits ignored by a bi partisan subcommittee would you accept it from Tucker Carlson? Or would you jsut stick your head back in the sand?

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_jbhydp8 wrote

Lol so you came up with that bullshit on your own?

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Smeedge_Kilgannon t1_jbiawvf wrote

More deflecting? Suprise suprise...Couldn't even answer?

I did come up with that on my own, unlike you who just repeats what other trolls say.

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_jbijg0p wrote

Lol because you are just parroting BS. You know you are. Sprinkling some smugness and belligerence on top of BS doesn't make it more valid.

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Smeedge_Kilgannon t1_jboa377 wrote

I am the on parrotig? Have you read your comments? Seems to me like you have no stance and too boot are missing a leg to stand on. Come back when you have any real argument to justify your stance instead of just repeating your hottakes from the politics sub.

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_jborkye wrote

Are you playing the Goebbels game? Accuse others of what you are doing? Or did you just get caught in your own bluster along the way? My argument, based on admittedly anecdotal data, was that that people are moving here because of climate change in the SW. It's simple. Never changed. You on the other hand have made zero solid arguments. You have made blank statements that are canned, overly simple talking points like the SW can fix their wild weather with more logging (i.e. rake the forests) and less farming. No elaboration on your part. Projecting false confidence via smugness and belligerence does not bolster your statements.

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Corey307 t1_jbhnf8s wrote

What’s your plan if you don’t mind? I’m assuming you got some land.

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Corey307 t1_jbhp8m0 wrote

Smart move. Produce is expensive here and the quality is hit or miss, I recommend growing some veg and planting some fruit trees.

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