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MarkVII88 t1_ja9bpci wrote

OK, so your elderly neighbor friend is stubborn, not necessarily willing to accept help, and is also a cheap-ass. Best bet for them is just a big bag of ice melt. Hell, buy them two bags and feel better. You could even shovel and de-ice the steps for them every now and then. Otherwise, as the saying goes, You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

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whaletacochamp t1_jaa9tkm wrote

The trick is to get a layer of salt on the steps BEFORE it snows. Then when it does snow the snow will either melt if not too heavy, or peel right off the steps if heavy/packed.

I have natural stone steps that are a NIGHTMARE to shovel/de-ice. A dozen of them with no hand rail makes bringing in a baby, elderly relatives, groceries, etc a chore. But if I’ve pre-treated I can walk up and down them all day packing the snow down and still just peel it off with the shovel. So satisfying.

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Shep_Book t1_jaajyfj wrote

You can lead a horse to water, but it’s still gonna be pissed if you try to drown it. 🤣

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MarkVII88 t1_jaazjhv wrote

Yeah, some people are just prickly or simply have to learn the hard way. Should be no skin off OP's nose.

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