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rubmypineapple t1_jdxgpkb wrote

Thought this was a manufacturing fault at first and ripped it off

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memeiel OP t1_jdxgw36 wrote

I ripped it off the first two times too haha

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randomly-what t1_jdyexk9 wrote

I ripped mine off on purpose in England last month because it was driving me nuts

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wedontlikespaces t1_jdzce7m wrote

I hope you then throw it in the local river. I believe that is the approved method of disposal.

Or you can go for maximum twatage and thow it at a bin, miss, and then just leave it there.

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Historical-Fox1372 t1_jdzemqn wrote

I feel like direct to river is a higher level of twatage than attempting to put it in the bin.

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wedontlikespaces t1_jdzjcqm wrote

Oh no they don't attempt, they just throw it. They are the same people who burn the plastic in bus shelters so you can't read the timetable.

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FinancialYou4519 t1_je20b8p wrote

The ones that piss all over the toilet at public establishments? The ones who press on the emergency brake on escalators?

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Implausibilibuddy t1_jdzrag7 wrote

How so? You just hook the little tab under the bottle thread and it stays open.

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alaninsitges t1_jdzozak wrote

Me too! I was thinking they had really let their quality control go. It wasn't until I noticed it on a milk carton that I realized something was up.

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arcanum7123 t1_je0co5s wrote

I always rip them off because they're annoying as fuck, but I also always have and do recycle them anyway

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Librosaurus t1_je0m6uh wrote

I hate to tell you this but...

I am pretty sure that they can't recycle black plastic unless it is attached to something else recyclable.

I believe it's something to do with the scanners have difficulty spotting black plastic and sorting it correctly.

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parag0n101 t1_jdzzmw6 wrote

Same, caught me out the other day - first time I’d come across it and thought it was a fault, nearly spilled my drink in the process :)

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cabalavatar t1_jdxhsll wrote

Weird how where I am in Canada, the recycling depots won't even take your bottles if they have caps on them. I have to throw the caps away. FML.

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washington_jefferson t1_jdzbpyy wrote

It’s the same in the US. People are advised to not return plastic bottles with the cap on.

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RevRagnarok t1_je1vygu wrote

Odd; my 2L soda bottles literally have a recycle symbol on the cap saying "Recycle with cap on."

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Djinjja-Ninja t1_jdzomqb wrote

It used to be the same here in the UK. Recycling advice was to always sperate the cap from the bottle, as while the caps are made from a recyclable plastic, often they don't have the facility to recycle it.

And as its made from a different plastic to the bottle if you leave it attached then it makes the bottle much more difficult to process.

You'd hope that this is no longer a problem...

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Carighan t1_jdzrmh3 wrote

Here in the EU it's the opposite, even before this being forced via attachment-strips, virtually all containers said "Please put the cap back on before recycling".

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JustinianusI t1_jdznejd wrote

Do you have to remove the ring bit holding the cap on initially? Surely that's the same plastic?

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Ravenclaw79 t1_jdzwieg wrote

That was my first thought — you can recycle those?

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Wooba99 t1_jdzxl7l wrote

Same here in Queensland Australia.

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Alib902 t1_jdzzete wrote

That's weird, we have an NGO in my country that takes them and for every 100kg of caps (maybe more not sure of the exact numbers) they give a wheel chair for someone in need.

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WrenchesRUs t1_je03u1x wrote

Shit we made near the same comment. I just added that they won't take cans if they're crushed either.

We save ours up and return them all at once. I had my poor Toyota Tercel stacked the ceiling everywhere but the drivers seat, and the floors and trunk full of bags too, made like 50 bucks lol

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SparkySailor t1_jdyw5p2 wrote

Some of them stopped doing that because the bottle depots bitched about the amount of caps dropped in their parking lots

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TurboThrobber t1_jdx6rey wrote

This isn't in force until next year, Coca-Cola are doing it voluntarily and are the only ones I've seen do it.

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AyrA_ch t1_jdxb1wf wrote

Nestea bottles have this too. At least in Switzerland

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memeiel OP t1_jdxby1a wrote

I haven’t seen those yet, but I just read that nestea will disappear as an ice tea brand. Maybe just in Germany?

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Cpkrupa t1_jdzypbk wrote

I'm in Scotland and it's definitely in effect here. Had many bottles like this and it's very annoying opening the bottles, can even end up cutting yourself.

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delinquentsaviors t1_jdyif27 wrote

I saw something like this on a bottle of water in France. Thought it was super innovative. Didn’t realize there was a push for it

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Martel67 t1_jdz2lnb wrote

Almost every bottle in France has that (last time i was there last summer)

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memeiel OP t1_jdx7ivh wrote

Yes, absolutely true, but others will have to follow.

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wedontlikespaces t1_jdzjjj7 wrote

I've only seen it done on the big 1 litre bottles, not the small individual ones you get for lunch.

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zillskillnillfrill t1_jdx94s5 wrote

Aren't they supposed to be separated because of coloured plastics

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Stachemaster86 t1_jdxcce8 wrote

I believe they get chipped up, floated based on density and then likely segregated by color using a air jet conveyor thing. That or they go into darker plastic blends like black which hides all other colors.

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zillskillnillfrill t1_jdxcp7w wrote

Oh, ok. I'm probably still going by the rule that was around in the 80s because I'm old

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LastLapPodcast t1_jdxqpda wrote

They do the same with glass. All our local glass recycling bins that were colour coded for clear, green and brown now just accept assorted glass.

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Viperion_NZ t1_jdym7gn wrote

We still have big ol' steel bins with three holes for clear, brown, and green glass....but there are no dividers in the bins lolol

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nim_opet t1_jdy4mjm wrote

They are no longer HDPE, they are PET like the bottle!

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Carighan t1_jdzrqt8 wrote

That's a good point, modern plastic caps on non-reusable bottles feel very different than back in the 80s, yeah.

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thejml2000 t1_jdxdy0c wrote

Around here they are. They’re generally different types of plastic.

That said I’m sure pretty much everywhere else has better recycling machin that we do so it’s probably fine in the EU.

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WelshBathBoy t1_jdz8xkr wrote

Of the tether caps I've seen, they are clear plastic like the bottle itself. Coloured plastic caps seem to being phased out too, or at least the plastic is changing to be same as bottle.

I'm not sure related, but at the same time milk lids are changing too https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/why-milk-bottle-tops-white-clear-supermarkets-coloured-caps-recycle-b1051032.html

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memeiel OP t1_jdx9fi1 wrote

I’m not sure but apparently not? They couldn’t be this stupid, could they? Or maybe some new machines make it easy to separate them at the recycling plant if they aren’t burned…

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Viperion_NZ t1_jdxgbpc wrote

Never underestimate the stupidity of bureaucracy... we can recycle plastic bottles but not their lids here (New Zealand.....)

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memeiel OP t1_jdxgtjv wrote

Yeah I definitely have some doubt…you never know

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wedontlikespaces t1_jdzcism wrote

They need to be separated from the plastic that makes up the bottles, but that can be done at the recycling plant. They just don't want to do the extra step. But that's on them.

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slawsy t1_jdxbw2f wrote

They have these in France, nice idea for recycling but they are annoying as fuck to drink out of. Also my kids (7+9) struggled to get them closed properly.

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The_Countess t1_jdztfrn wrote

>Also my kids (7+9) struggled to get them closed properly.

Press it down and then if its not flat rotate the cap the wrong way round until it clicks.

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slawsy t1_je0dd37 wrote

Yes, I was able to do it myself, my children struggled. I'll pass your advice onto them next time we're in france......

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memeiel OP t1_jdxc8ef wrote

I get what you mean. I think if it’s on the side like on the picture it’s not too bad

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slawsy t1_jdxcypo wrote

I found them annoying whatever way they were orientated, seemed to catch on my mouth/scratch my lip and if they didn't I expected them too and was waiting for it to happen. Hopefully they come up with a better solution.

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memeiel OP t1_jdxdjd9 wrote

Somebody commented a YouTube video with a cap that looked like it had a better hinge, maybe that could solve it?

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slawsy t1_jdxe0be wrote

I wouldn't have an issue for pouring the liquid out like the YouTube video, the hinge isn't an issue then. it's more when you're drinking out of a bottle with this on that it gets in the way. I'm all for the idea, it's just the execution that's lacking for me.

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memeiel OP t1_jdxe6ue wrote

I get that. Maybe they will think of something better

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Justavian t1_jdxpbym wrote

This just seems like theater. Is this really solving any problems? Companies have put the responsibility on the consumer since the beginning, and all we're getting now is a token change that will do next to nothing.

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Some-Juggernaut-2610 t1_jdz9as9 wrote

Was unrecycled bottle caps even an issue to begin with?

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wedontlikespaces t1_jdzjrg7 wrote

Yes. It used to be that the bottle caps were of a different type of plastic and so couldn't be recycled together, at least not easily. And people learnt that, so they used to remove the bottle caps.

But they've gone over to using the same type of plastic in the caps as they do in the bottles, so they can all be recycled together, but getting that new idea through to people is a bit difficult, so it's easier to just tie the bottle cap to the bottle to reinforce the idea that they should now stay together.

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Riegler77 t1_je0lnqr wrote

In what way could companies take the responsibility themselves?

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Justavian t1_je15kve wrote

Establish recycling centers at their own expense where they pay the consumer (or municipalities as a whole) to bring their plastic bottles back. If they pay something - even a cent per bottle, there would be a huge incentive to collect bottles and return them, as they are produced in such huge numbers.

As it is right now, companies justify the massive amounts of plastic they produce by saying "Hey, it can all be recycled! We're basically making no waste at all." Understanding all the way that certain types of plastics cannot easily be recycled - maybe your city recycles that kind and maybe not.

The idea is to make companies pay for the clean up of their products one way or another, particularly when they produce single use items.

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Say10sadvocate t1_jdyxxyx wrote

I hate these caps and rip them off.

I don't think I've ever, or at least very rarely, separated a cap and a bottle permanently during use, always put it back on before throwing it out. So I kinda don't see the point.

But I guess some people must like open a bottle and throw away the cap? Weird.

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memeiel OP t1_jdz1hna wrote

That’s what I was thinking I never separate it. But I saw people collecting huge amounts of bottles for the deposit and they separate it to flatten the bottles to fit more into one plastic bag to return

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mr_marshian t1_je0qabl wrote

In stadiums I've been, if you buy a bottle they take the lid as it makes it harder to throw an open bottle as a projectile onto the field

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0YaKnow t1_jdxb9pn wrote

An unintentional benefit might also be a reduced risk of small children choking on bottle caps. Obviously, no one should leave a small child unattended with a soda bottle or cap, but accidents happen and kids can get into anything

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memeiel OP t1_jdxbsbi wrote

That’s true, I hope no one dies swallowing a bottle cap

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Scruffy42 t1_jdxbcqh wrote

That's surprising because I thought clear plastic had to be sorted separately.

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The_Countess t1_jdzt8x8 wrote

The old style cap design already left a ring behind of the same plastic as the cap. as they seem to have handled that, keeping the cap itself attached seems like it would be a minor change.

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Scruffy42 t1_jdzvn7q wrote

Also, I imagine a lot of places have already gotten around it. But in smaller cities it might be bigger of a problem.

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incapable1337 t1_jdxjv7i wrote

I see the benefits, but they're quite annoying while drinking from it or just pouring, because you cannot get them fully out of the way. Damned things won't stay to the side and flip halfway back on

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da_kink t1_jdz3hst wrote

It's sooo freaking annoying. Almost impossible to get the cap back on, it collapses when pouring.

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castaneom t1_jdz75hu wrote

I bought a coke in Spain a couple weeks ago and thought it was defective, I ripped it off!

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Morasain t1_jdzg4j6 wrote

I hate them so much. They're just inconvenient while trying to, you know - drink from the bottle. They poke you and are just uncomfortable all around

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FasterThanTW t1_jdzk0am wrote

European politicians really digging the bottom of the barrel to find something new to exert control over.

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Lalalala943 t1_jdzyf2l wrote

It’s so annoying and makes it very hard to drink from the things. Constantly getting whacked in the face by the lid lol. I rip them off.

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Eve-3 t1_jdx8s92 wrote

Nice idea. And good on coca cola for trying out a design first to test if it's a good design instead of just making one and that's what people are stuck with whether it's convenient or not.

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memeiel OP t1_jdx960n wrote

Right? I thought so, too. They’re also explaining the change of the caps by printing things like “please keep me attached” on them

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Timid_Robot t1_jdz5tmd wrote

But I'm confused. Here in Belgium those caps have existed for years... They look exactly the same as the Coca cola ones. So what are they testing exactly?

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Djinjja-Ninja t1_jdzp6vt wrote

This article is from Feb 2021. They're pretty widespread now.

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Eve-3 t1_jdzut6y wrote

That it's physically attached to the bottle even after it is untwisted/opened. A lot of people here complaining that it gets in the way when trying to drink so hopefully they'll try something else.

I have no idea what's sold in the Netherlands, I don't drink pre-bottled drinks.

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Timid_Robot t1_je00ii3 wrote

Again... This has existed for years. And yes, it sucks.

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Eve-3 t1_je01z46 wrote

Again, I don't consume this junk so this is new information for me.

Sorry it sucks. Congratulations for already having it. I'd give you an award but that seems to not be a thing any longer.

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RealJonathanBronco t1_jdzknrz wrote

Seems like an odd plan. I couldn't see myself lasting more than two sips before I accidentally bang the cap against my mouth and rip it off in a momentary fit of rage.

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tacodepollo t1_jdztanp wrote

So THAT'S what's going on, aight.

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TacTurtle t1_je1l6lh wrote

Why plastic bottles when aluminum cans can be indefinitely recycled?

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askmeaboutmysciatica t1_jdx7ckp wrote

Will this help? If it does I’m all for it

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memeiel OP t1_jdx83hj wrote

Every little bit helps, even if people are already recycling bottles including caps, this will probably increase the recycled caps.

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olivermadden t1_jdxan9p wrote

Should mention this has been a thing for many months now. Even Waitrose water has these caps. They work really well and are nicknamed gym caps/tops for their usefulness when exercising and not losing your top!

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memeiel OP t1_jdxbo4u wrote

Yeah I’ve noticed it more and more as well, at first I thought it was kinda weird, then I got it. I came across an article today so I thought I would share if someone was wondering why they are doing it.

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halfpipesaur t1_jdy1aac wrote

What? We’ve been doing the exact opposite for the very same reason for years now: separating the bottle and the cap because they’re made from different materials and it’s easier to recycle the caps that way.

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Klopferator t1_jdy7et0 wrote

They are shredded anyway and the pieces can be automatically sorted very easily. So it's not really a concern.

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rdb479 t1_jdya3dn wrote

I've run into caps that this before and you know what I did. I ripped the darn thing off the top because it gets in the way.

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iamlindoro t1_jdzejx4 wrote

Live in Spain, these began to appear a few months ago. At first it annoyed me so much but they’re actually decently well done and they grew on me. I now have the muscle memory of opening and closing them and they don’t annoy me at all any more. People will definitely get over it. I ripped a few off at first but then you have ultra-sharp plastic thorns poking out and stabbing you.

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memeiel OP t1_jdzm10w wrote

Yeah now that you mention it, I remember that, it was way more annoying when I ripped them off…

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Tutorbin76 t1_jdzmbn6 wrote

Recycled where, exactly? Because if they ship it to the Philippines those lying bastards just toss it into the ocean.

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1000sloths t1_jdzp7ud wrote

So this is why my day is ruined

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mario1138 t1_je12hcg wrote

Less that 30% of plastic bottles are "recycled" in the US, but technically most of them are "downcycled", which means they are being turned into lower quality forms of plastic. The idea of an infinite loop plastic recycling is a myth because unlike metal, plastic loses quality every time it is processed until it is unusable.

Single serving plastic bottles should be almost entirely replaced with aluminum cans, which are infinitely recyclable.

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memeiel OP t1_je16jvm wrote

Wow thanks for that info, I wasn’t aware of aluminum is infinitely recyclable!

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mario1138 t1_je1lqs0 wrote

yup, thats true for all metals I think. Interestingly, I just learned that metal alloys such as steel are not considered chemical compounds but homogeneous mixtures. Steel is a mixture of steel and carbon kind of like mixing chocolate and milk to form chocolate milk. There is no chemical compound formula for steel.

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aClearCrystal t1_je1d1ic wrote

That's not an unsolvable problem.

In Germany, over 94% of PET bottles are recycled, and 34% are even fully reused as new PET bottles.

source

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mario1138 t1_je1kikh wrote

source is in German so I can't really respond to it. Are they cleaning and reusing the bottles or creating new bottles from the first generation of PET bottles? This is still usually downcycling unless they are adding new plastic to recycle the old plastic. The 2nd generation of bottles can't be recycled in the same way as the first generation. I believe you can only do this only a few generations at most without adding new plastic material.

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Marcusuk1 t1_jdxbrl8 wrote

I've bought a couple of Schweppes lemonade bottles that have this in the UK

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memeiel OP t1_jdxc3fp wrote

Cool, so it’s already spreading even before they have to change it in 2024

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snackpizza t1_jdxwmeu wrote

Our recycling co. (Sarcan) refuses lids

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Bryndonk t1_jdyblxr wrote

Got one. Didn’t close it properly. It pissed all over my fridge.

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Ethereal42 t1_jdyh3xo wrote

When I saw this recently in the UK I thought it was an error in the moulding but it looked well made an intentional, really confused me the first time.

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Some-Juggernaut-2610 t1_jdz96it wrote

Its very annoying btw. I can't really imagine unrecycled bottle caps was an issue in the first place. No one tosses the cap seperately from the bottle.

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ronflair t1_jdz9ww0 wrote

I don’t drink soda. That’s how I solved that problem.

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rookydooky t1_jdzcs1i wrote

I rip it off. They are very annoying

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tukker51 t1_jdzu097 wrote

These suck, you cant drink out them properly when they're on and you cant close a bottle after drinking of you dont rip them off.

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Kelmon80 t1_jdzx9ja wrote

They are SO fucking annoying! I don't want some cap in my face while I drink, and I don't want to have to rip them off every time, leaving a potentially sharp piece of plastic I have to be careful to not jam in my face.

And where is the point in that? Here in Germany, all plastic bottles are returned WITH cap to get your deposit back. Who takes off the cap and then throws it away, to, you know, have a bottle you can't close? Escaped mental patients?

How about implementing it ONLY in countries where people - for whatever insane reason - throw those caps away on a regular basis?

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WrenchesRUs t1_je03ekj wrote

Huh, and here I have to take the covers off and throw them away, as the recycler / deposit place won't take bottles with covers.

They also won't take crushed cans.. idk what the shape has to do with it, can is can

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jb122894 t1_je0j1ba wrote

That'd be difficult to drink and less convenient. I feel that normally people keep the cap with the bottle, and if the cap is litered it's usually screwed onto the bottle still

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Salamalecs t1_je0p6n2 wrote

What is left untold is that a removable cap and a bottle are two distinct pieces of packaging when you have to pay the EU tax... The new caps allow to pay half as much.

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waynizzle2 t1_je187v5 wrote

Us Americans think were so great and so advanced. We are falling short in so many area.

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IsThisRealOrNah93 t1_je5k2au wrote

Yes and in starting april, in the Netherlands at least, you also gotta pay extra for a can when buying a can of soda, to try and get people to hand it in instead of yeeting it everywhere.

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moarcoffeenow t1_je5zzaf wrote

Wait til they learn that plastic recycling is basically a complete myth.

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Killawife t1_jdyb3ta wrote

They could just have a separate recycle bin for the caps and perople would recycle them. Personally I dont see this as a problem as I always screw the caps on all bottles when I'm done. And the first thing I do with these new caps is cut the ribbon as its kinda annoying having the cap hanging on top.

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platypusstime t1_jdzn8h0 wrote

I can see why they forced that on smaller bottles that you take outside but to also force it on the bigger bottles (1 liter and more) is just extremely annoying.

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pauliewotsit t1_jdxk5kf wrote

It's a great idea, one which we in the UK will probably dodge because that seems to be the thing here, dodging great ideas...

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Djinjja-Ninja t1_jdzpn84 wrote

Except the bottles are already here in the UK.

We may not copy their legislation to force manufacturers to do it, but companies like Coca-Cola will just adopt it over here anyway.

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bebop1065 t1_jdy6mlb wrote

Wut about my freedom? I can just hear this complaint if US manufacturers have to do the same.

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UndahratedAussie t1_jdytne9 wrote

Good.

ALso do container deposit. In rich countries it should be at least .50USD per bottle.

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memeiel OP t1_jdz1ex6 wrote

I think it’s .25€ in some countries

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