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KombattWombatt t1_j7kdq2e wrote
Appropriate.
stinking_badgers t1_j7l0axt wrote
And today perhaps you also learned that his name is actually Rod.
SAT0725 OP t1_j7l1exj wrote
Lol nice catch
stinking_badgers t1_j7lp9zf wrote
:)
NecessaryHuckleberry t1_j7kdrqz wrote
Looks like he was poetry’s version of Thomas Kinkade
ITeechYoKidsArt t1_j7kk4oo wrote
He was popular with the same kind of people maybe, but he wasn’t anything like Kinkaide. Kinkaide would have used his kids blood in the paintings if he thought he could sell more of his shit. He was a shameless huckster who used other people to do the work for him and made it abundantly clear he thought the people who bought his trash were morons who deserved to lose their money. There’s a segment from 60 Minutes with him and it’s very obvious what kind of guy he is even though they edited it down to make him look less of a turd.
mojogirl_ t1_j7ll6le wrote
A 2-for-1 TIL. Thanks!
majinspy t1_j7ncsbe wrote
I really expected a nasty turn but...this Rod guy seems like a cool dude.
ITeechYoKidsArt t1_j7nvcrb wrote
Yeah the comparisons people are throwing around are kind of ridiculous. The guy sounds mostly harmless. I mean he’s most famous for a poem about his cat. Spoiler the cat ran away.
melance t1_j7liu05 wrote
"Live Love Laugh" could have been his.
tomcat_tweaker t1_j7kfqre wrote
Burned with a class VII flamethrower.
Bad-Uncle t1_j7ycob6 wrote
RUDE!
z7q2 t1_j7kje49 wrote
Gene Ween did an album of only McKuen covers, it's good.
https://consequence.net/2012/04/album-review-aaron-freeman-marvelous-clouds/
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Kipsydaisy t1_j7kycjn wrote
Knew a woman in college who gave me a Rod McKuen poem as a sort of courtship gesture. This was late 90's in a college full of mostly English majors. I knew who he was, but barely, and associated him with (figurative) cheese. Think only time he came up after that was when Gene Ween did a whole album of McKuen poems as songs [someone else mentioned].
askmeaboutmysciatica t1_j7l65tu wrote
Did you go out with her?
Kipsydaisy t1_j7m1lrh wrote
No. But the poetry wasn't the dealbreaker. I don't think the poem was good, though.
jcd1974 t1_j7lfzqm wrote
Probably the last poet to become a celebrity and household name.
askmeaboutmysciatica t1_j7ludry wrote
Maya Angelou comes to mind but there’s truth to this comment
jcd1974 t1_j7luqpj wrote
She was probably more well known for her memoir I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings.
SAT0725 OP t1_j7lk6y2 wrote
Bukowski might have been close, but he's not terribly female-friendly lol
malektewaus t1_j7mwx2i wrote
And even though he's a poet first and foremost, I suspect Bukowski is better known for his autobiographical novels. Sort of like Maya Angelou.
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realmealdeal t1_j7oacjp wrote
I'll counter with Margaret Atwood, but that might just be a Canada thing.
Bad-Uncle t1_j7ycl8e wrote
Again, better known as a novelist - more's the pity.
willardTheMighty t1_j7oa1d1 wrote
What about the lauded warrior-poets Eazy-E and Ice Cube?
DavoTB t1_j7mwm1w wrote
Rod McKuen was wildly popular as a poet and songwriter in the sixties. Two of his more famous songs were translated from Jacques Brel, (“If You Go Away” and “Seasons In The Sun.”) He wrote an Academy Award-nominated song, “Jean” (from the film, “The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie,” ) as well as “A Boy Named Charlie Brown.”
His singing voice was uncommon, raspy and quite rough-sounding, yet his albums sold extremely well in the era. However, those and the books he published did not have the lasting impression on the public as tastes changed.
mindfu t1_j7l0twp wrote
Wow that was interesting.
MajCassiusStarbuckle t1_j7l6ckv wrote
What a fascinating character. I know I'd heard the name but reading up now, I didn't really know Jack about Rod.
mighty_boogs t1_j7ns78p wrote
Meh. He had his season in the sun.
dougola t1_j7lngct wrote
If I remember, he wrote the song "Jean" which was very popular and there are a lot of women around named for that song.
GoddessoftheUniverse t1_j7lr9lk wrote
His spoken word would make me weap... "If You Go Away".....
hurtindog t1_j7lzj8a wrote
It’s Rod and he’s not forgotten. Much better poets have been though. Do yourself a favor and learn about Ken Patchen. That guys influence on modern American poetry is waaaay under credited. He also wrote some good poetry.
Bad-Uncle t1_j7ycuuk wrote
When was the last time you saw Brautigan in the wild, eh?
Landlubber77 t1_j7kdony wrote
We who gather here today shall not allow his name to be lost to the sands of time! Each one of you who sees this post, go out into the world today and speak his name. Tell one person about his deeds at work, in the drive-thru, during a polite bank robbery or home invasion, while buying nails to finally hang that goddamn frame that has two hangy things on the back instead of just one in the center so now you have to make sure the nails are perfectly level or the picture is gonna be crooked and drive you absolutely fucking nu--just tell somebody, anybody!
Cocoononthemoon t1_j7kemdk wrote
Nah
Landlubber77 t1_j7khut8 wrote
Jah
-DementedAvenger- t1_j7ki0yl wrote
Ith
RonyTheTiger t1_j7kxfni wrote
Ber, we nigma now.
FinancialYou4519 t1_j7ks1eb wrote
Jawohl mein führer
tplgigo t1_j7lw1ub wrote
He was very popular when I was selling books in the 70s.
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negcap t1_j7ki870 wrote
There is a song by Too Much Joy that references him. It’s called, “Good Kill.”
rks404 t1_j7lev2p wrote
There's another Too Much Joy song that started as a Rod McKuen poem - "Seasons in the Sun" - it was a cover of a song by Terry Jacks
Terry Jacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tPcc1ftj8E
Too much Joy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVwU83bsMAM
Jackieirish t1_j7m95ia wrote
The poem and song were a translation of a Belgian song Le Moribund.
rofopp t1_j7lkcaa wrote
Y’all forgot his name. It’s Rod.
t3chiman t1_j7mrsht wrote
McKuen was popular enough in the 1970s to attract parodists. In Someone’s Sneakers is appropriately wistful and inappropriately vulgar (Credibility Gap, A Great Gift Idea).
CrypticHandle t1_j7nbepf wrote
The Pet Rock of poetry.
Snork_kitty t1_j7s3k5a wrote
My family had one of his books or records and I thought he was great when I was 13 (1968). Then I took a poetry class in high school...
Piece73 t1_j7lhgi2 wrote
Who was forgotten?
HappyHighwayman t1_j7ltcyb wrote
People buy poetry?
SAT0725 OP t1_j7lvr6l wrote
I do, but I'm a poet and have an undergraduate degree in poetry. Most poetry bought is probably bought by other poets lol.
HappyHighwayman t1_j7lvxhv wrote
I can’t imagine spending any money on poetry. It amazes me someone even made a living at it.
SAT0725 OP t1_j7lwjh8 wrote
Yeah even bestselling poets only sell a few hundred copies of their books, if that.
HappyHighwayman t1_j7lwln9 wrote
Are they mostly self published ?
SAT0725 OP t1_j7lwon8 wrote
No, that's the number for major publishers
HappyHighwayman t1_j7lwqyf wrote
Do they charge a lot to make their money back or only print a few hundred copies ?
SAT0725 OP t1_j7lyj3k wrote
Probably only print a few hundred, if that. Most poetry printed today is from small presses anyway. If a major publisher prints poetry they're usually old classics in the public domain or really well-known poets like Sylvia Plath or the Beats, etc.
HappyHighwayman t1_j7lymgp wrote
Thank you for answering all my questions.
macdon74 t1_j7ma5fq wrote
"It's not who you love or how you love, Just that you love"
Rosy2020Derek t1_j7mc1zz wrote
Idk he was the “ best” Who decided that? I don’t like his stuff
CustomHW t1_j7ncih3 wrote
This really reinforces my belief that no matter what you accomplish, everyone will eventually forget you. It's family that really matters. All the other peripheral stuff (career, money, esteem, etc.) is just noise. I would gladly trade all of it in for just one more hour with my lost loved ones.
dmcanall59 t1_j7nfm0j wrote
It’s Raining..
cancercauser69 t1_j7nrpvm wrote
Great poems and great ballads but I've met many people who absolutely hate him. Read his book about his search for his father, it's pretty good
HPmoni t1_j7lqjxw wrote
We only remember artists who were ahead of their time.
TheLyingProphet t1_j7m2u18 wrote
nope they are forgotten all the same
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PerNewton t1_j7kgnep wrote
TIL George Santos was a poet in a past life.
thegoodrichard t1_j7kdggw wrote
Rod