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DataWeenie t1_j9uvpdb wrote

Yeah, it's pretty wild when you put a Map of Europe against North America. The gulf stream and Mediterranean do a lot.

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horshack_test t1_j9uy1an wrote

I'd say "farther south than" those cities is a better way of wording it (which is why the article you link to words it that way). In the overall sense, Toronto is west of those cities.

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JurassicCotyledon t1_j9uzcmt wrote

The most southern part of Canada shares the same latitude as Northern California.

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Pkuszmaul t1_j9v0371 wrote

I used to blow people's mind when I told them I lived north of the majority of Canada's population when I lived in Northern Wisconsin.

Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, and all their suburbs are south.

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square3481 t1_j9v8c6h wrote

"Fun? In Toronto?"

"That's it! You cocky cock!"

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Throwaway7219017 t1_j9vcmv9 wrote

Not sure what city is in the photo, but it’s not Toronto.

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Ianbeerito t1_j9veofe wrote

Met a dude from there that thought he lived further north than all of the USA

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Norwester77 t1_j9vtqoa wrote

Wow, you’re right! It’s even south of Eugene!

I think I was thinking about the line that divides Canada’s population in half, north-south. That line is about level with Ridgefield, WA.

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HeartCrafty2961 t1_j9w3t73 wrote

I'm from the UK and having worked in Toronto as an expat was seriously thinking of moving the family out to Canada, because it was easy to get in, compared to other countries. But not Toronto. Too cold in winter, too humid in summer. I went to a job fair at Kempton Park racecourse in London, and BC was like, don't bother if you don't have a degree (I don't, dropped out), to Sashkachuan and Alberta who said if you can arrange a job upfront you're in. Then I took a look at the climate. Frost on the ground may recede by May. FFS, respect to you people who live there, but not for me. That's too cold for a Brit where May is blossom time.

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Threash78 t1_j9w6rn3 wrote

Everything is south of everything else if you just keep going south.

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747ER t1_j9w6z2g wrote

I think it’s more West of those places rather than South personally

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Akiasakias t1_j9w745y wrote

Solar intensity is so low that far north. Germany has paid 4x as much on solar investments for 1/3 the results as California.

Order of magnitude less efficient.

I'm all for Green tech, but pick the ones that work best where you are!

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dinglenutzzz t1_j9w8jpn wrote

Another piece of useless information, for a useless "city"

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Akimbobear t1_j9w9kn2 wrote

If you haven’t already follow Atlaspro on YouTube. He doesn’t an amazing job explaining how geography affects the way the world is.

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Yitram t1_j9wbadm wrote

This is what screwed with alot of the early colonization of North America. Settle in Massachusetts and expect Mediterranean weather.

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Wideawakedup t1_j9wehi0 wrote

I was just talking to a coworker about a Reddit post about Scandinavian/Nordic countries leaving their babies outside in the winter to nap. He’s in Chicago and I’m in Detroit, I said I think our cold is a different cold because I can’t imagine leaving a baby with baby fine skin outside in the winter here, even when bundled up. He said he knew someone who has been to Antarctica and they said it gets colder in Chicago.

Oceans make a huge difference in temperatures.

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h3rpad3rp t1_j9wfkv3 wrote

It was around -25 in Calgary this afternoon. -4 tomorrow afternoon. +2 on Sunday. This cities weather is pretty stupid though. Wind form the north and we can see -35, wind from the west and we can see up to +15 in the winter. You can see it all within the span of a few days.

Chinooks are a great break from winter, but don't ever move here if you get migraines. Also if you move here, you might find out you get migraines.

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freddy_guy t1_j9wimu6 wrote

But it's north of London, Ontario and Paris, Ontario, and Berlin (now Kitchener), Ontario.

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CapeWhiteTrash t1_j9wjqv1 wrote

OK let me pull out Google Maps. Ok, slowly scrolls over, yeah seems correct.

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Sabres00 t1_j9wlb74 wrote

Toronto is an awesome city too.

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PrailinesNDick t1_j9wloe5 wrote

I work outside pretty much year round. Toronto has like 2-4 weeks in the summer where it's gross to be outside, and probably 4 weeks dispersed over a 3-month period in winter where it's too cold/snowy/slushy to be outside.

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StudentMed t1_j9wnci3 wrote

New York City is more southern than Istanbul Turkey.

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Bigfoot25 t1_j9wp9yv wrote

Have you been to west Texas lately? It's all wind turbines as far as the eye can see. In fact if I remember correctly Texas is either the fastest growing or the top renewable electric generator in the USA.

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JaimeFenrirson t1_j9wsspv wrote

Believe it or not, parts of Canada are further south than Alaska

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Judge_Rhinohold t1_j9wt3ir wrote

Parts of Canada are on the same latitude as northern California.

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Brobuscus48 t1_j9wuf4m wrote

I find that chinooks just make it more difficult to get used to winter. I can deal with -20°C with windchill making it feel like -30°C when it's consistent. I can't do it when the next day might be +5°C and feel hot in comparison. Obviously if I were homeless, had poor insulation in my house, or worked outside all year I would change my opinion pretty rapidly I imagine.

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Zumainthepines t1_j9wuotz wrote

We are north of London ON, Paris ON and Berlin ON later known as Kitchener ON ;)

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LipTrev t1_j9x1zru wrote

Edmonton is at the same latitude as Manchester and Dublin.

Calgary is south of London.

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Brusion t1_j9x2x8h wrote

That southernmost point in Ontario Canada, is further south that the northern border of California.

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faxanaduu t1_j9x3ifb wrote

Im in northern Vermont. Milan is north of me. Mind blown.

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Fistandantalus t1_j9xc5ph wrote

But it is north of London, paris and kitchener (new Berlin) Ontario

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PragmaticIdealism t1_j9xcr73 wrote

I mean, is this supposed to be a shocking fact? Anyone that’s looked at a map before can see Europe is further north than most of North America. What’s the fun fact here?

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Ram_Ranch_Manager t1_j9xg5sf wrote

Same thing with the east coast of Asia and the west coast of the US. For example, Vladivostok, Russia is at the same latitude as Coos Bay, Oregon. Vladivostok’s mean temp is 41F/5C while Coos Bay’s mean temp is 62F/16C.

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TheOftenNakedJason t1_j9xjfo5 wrote

The one that always gets me is that Chile, South America, is east of Florida. I always think of south America as due south of North America, but it's really not.

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YoloRandom t1_j9xlj12 wrote

I thought it was to the West of those cities. Dumb me

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inapewetrust t1_j9xqs52 wrote

I didn't really grasp how far north Europe is till I moved here. Like Florence, Italy is on the same latitude as Buffalo, NY. It was the swing in seasonal daylight hours that tipped me off.

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drygnfyre t1_j9xxm77 wrote

Alaska is technically both the westernmost and easternmost state, as some of the Aleutian islands would cross the Int'l Date Line. However the line was adjusted to account for this, so it's not practically true.

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drygnfyre t1_j9xxs1i wrote

>Oceans make a huge difference in temperatures.

The North Slope of Alaska is generally warmer and more mild than the Alaskan Interior, despite being hundreds of miles farther north. Because of how moderating the ocean is. I was there in winter, and even with the Arctic Ocean frozen over, the geothermal heat is still strong enough to moderate temperatures.

Throw in wind chill, and I could believe Chicago being colder than Antarctica at times. Alaska is similar. I've been there dead of winter and while it will be subzero, there is zero wind and thus all you really need is a heavy sweater and you're fine. Conversely, I've been in the Sierra Nevada when it's around 20 F, but the wind chill is miserable and you need tons of layers to overcome it.

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krisolin t1_j9y18kp wrote

Wow! I would have never guessed. And I used to live in Finland!

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FrankDrakman t1_j9yeaq1 wrote

Most up and down winter I've ever seen in Toronto, and I've lived here since 1960. Warm spells where I walk around with just a light sweater, and then boom, a foot of snow. Then the same thing happens two weeks later.

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dew2459 t1_j9yjoms wrote

More making bad political decisions. It was the politicians who decided to shut the nuclear plants to make the extremist anti-nuclear greens happy, not the engineers.

Germans have a generally good reputation for engineering.

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markthe t1_j9yr6rx wrote

Everybody here is just dropping geography facts.

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Fast_Polaris22 t1_j9z31zi wrote

Unfortunately, it has an environment not influenced by any ocean currents and it is comparatively cold. Kind of sucks Dec - March.

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CloakWheelIsHim t1_j9zsa6s wrote

you're thinking of east or west, we have the axis of longitude latitude aligned with the spin. I guess we are lucky we didnt decide to conceptualize our location as an abstract dynamic position relative to the sun and moon.

edit because i always mix up lat/long

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HeartCrafty2961 t1_ja5tsxu wrote

Doesn't change the climate. Am guessing it's the same for Millwaukee, St Paul, Chicago and Detroit. Even New York. How do you guys get through your harsh winters? Just asking for a friend in the UK whose heating bills are going through the roof since we turned off Russia.

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