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Lidjungle t1_j4dwae7 wrote

Reply to comment by Elons_a_distraction in Mindy Kaling did not create or write Velma. Why is she taking so much heat? by [deleted]

I just felt like the humor fell flat and really had a meanspirited core. It wanted to champion diversity while making some of the laziest "Lol, butch lesbian cops" jokes ever. And it really has nothing more to say than "LOL. Lesbians. Funny, right??" There's no satire, no mirror to society. The only redeeming social commentary to be had is how badly the other sides case is made with this rather stupid show.

To be fair, I've seen worse pieces of junk get 4 seasons on Netflix. Yeah, Paradise PD, I'm looking at you.

Like I knew the lines I was supposed to laugh at... But the humor was just juvenile, poorly delivered, often times confusing... Is Daphne supposed to be Asian and being played by a white (cartoon) actress? Like there was a thing about that after the cringey in every way shower scene, and I just didn't get it. The whole thing was just so clunky and wooden.

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khanfusion t1_j4ep8q9 wrote

I saw a huge mix of good and bad writing throughout. When it hit for me they were very good jokes, but there were times when the jokes were just stale or fell flat, and shouldn't have been in there. The first four or so minutes of the first episode were hard to watch, honestly. But it got better and I laughed out loud like 3 or 4 times in there.

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Lidjungle t1_j4eqqip wrote

I was kinda starting to relax into the dad banter when they did the thing about her mom leaving because she hated them? So… I was pretty turned off by that point. Like… maybe retconning Shaggy into a straight edge was cute, but they went a lame direction with it. Her showing up in thot wear because she didn’t kill her mom and the ensuing scene? Cringe. So, if it had some redeeming bits, it may have been after it had exhausted its goodwill for me.

On a positive note, I learned about Harley Quinn from the discussion around Velma, and I’m really enjoying it.

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Elons_a_distraction t1_j4dwng6 wrote

I actually don’t need social commentary is my cartoons. I get enough of it everywhere else.

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Lidjungle t1_j4dz2mz wrote

Oh, it was full of social commentary. I didn't mean to give the impression that the show with the two lesbian cops wasn't trying to make a point - it's just that they did a very poor job with it.

Paradise PD is Juvenile - but it's also not trying to be anything but. They aren't tongue-in-cheek meta analyzing the shower scene and the plight of asian american representation with pretentions of depth.

I wouldn't even have to mention social commentary in the same breath as a cartoon - but Velma very much was making an effort at it. They just failed miserably. It was mean spirited and OLD. Things that were edgy takes in 1997.

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khanfusion t1_j4epka0 wrote

I am pretty sure they haven't made any kind of point about the lesbian cops, except to maybe link all the themes of partnerships. But that's a stretch.

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Lidjungle t1_j4erg7c wrote

Good to know they only played the lesbian cops for laughs then.

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khanfusion t1_j4esztb wrote

They didn't though. Like, there's just two lesbian cop partners who are partners. That's it.

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