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SmashingK t1_j1rjypg wrote

He's also always overly confident when he overpowers but when he doesn't he's such a whiny little git.

His combat abilities peaked when he took on 3 vice captions bare handed very early in the story and then even dropped to having just his speed and one special attack move for the remaining hundreds of episodes lol.

He's a good character but he's not as developed as he should be.

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InnocentTailor t1_j1rm9cb wrote

He was somewhat overconfident in this arc too, but the Big Bad kicked his arse hard.

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SkyezOpen t1_j1rvutc wrote

The last arc was some pretty shit writing to be honest.

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AdministrationWaste7 t1_j1t8owz wrote

His combat abilities never peak. Dude is essentially limitless. Ichigo is the most "Mary sue" Mc I have ever seen.

This is how literally every story arc of bleach goes.

  • ichigo meets bad guy.
  • ichigo fights said bad guys
  • ichigo wins some but eventually loses to strong bad guy
  • ichigo becomes/inherits power of said bad guys. Usually as a special attack
  • ichigo stomps

Rinse and repeat.

Oh and those fights? "Getsuga tenshou" for days as you said over and over.

Main reason I can't rewatch lol.

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_10032 t1_j1ta8eh wrote

That's how every shounen goes.

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AdministrationWaste7 t1_j1tbsbn wrote

No not really.

Like I guess if DragonBallz is the only shonen you've seen lol.

Like naruto has his own thing and skills. And when he fights people it's about how his skills match up with the baddies. Naruto also very rarely fights alone and most fights have alot of teamwork involved.

Then you have something like hunter x hunter where the main characters don't even fight the big bads half the time let alone beat them and there's usually an alternate win condition involved.

It's never just "omg ichigo is here and his powerlevel is over 9000!"

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3nz3r0 t1_j1tsecl wrote

Doesn't Naruto just spam his rasengan and shadow clone techniques?

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AdministrationWaste7 t1_j1u4olb wrote

Not really.

Those are his signature moves but there's more to the battles than just using them.

The clones for example don't really do anything on their own and are more of a utility. For example he uses clones to power up his rasangan or to avoid attacks midair or to fake out an opponent.

The rasengan is also(typically) a close range attack with charge time. Meaning that in battles naruto has to do alot of things to get close to the opponent to be able to hit someone with them.

Meanwhile in bleach getsuga tenshou is a ranged attack which is either too weak to hurt the opponent or powered up enough to do a ton of damage on hit depending on the situation.

Fights in bleach devolve to standing around talking. Literally pointless "basic attacks" that dont further any sort of strategy and then a power up killer move(bankai, etc etc).

If you don't believe me just go watch montages between the two shows. Like there is a reason why bleach got canceled and naruto has another 100+ episode spinoff/sequel after it completed.

You don't watch bleach for the fights(cuz they are mediocre) you watch it for the cool character designs/concepts, the story and "hype" moments.

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batinex t1_j1uhupb wrote

Bleach was cancelled because kubo was sick and anime got ton of fillers. Bleach fight can look great, see Yamamoto vs ywach

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AdministrationWaste7 t1_j1ummh2 wrote

Bleach got canceled because of low ratings.

> Bleach fight can look great, see Yamamoto vs ywach

Yep new anime looks great. Doesn't change anything on what I said.

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batinex t1_j1v2kzl wrote

Bleach got cancelled because of low ratings because there were only fillers because kubo was sick

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