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dangil t1_ixlo8a3 wrote

Reply to comment by not_creative1 in Hundreds riot at Foxconn iPhone plant over terrible conditions by Doener23

And Apple should help them

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mainelinerzzzzz t1_ixnxb8m wrote

How would Apple helping the workers benefit the stockholders? Tim Cook does nothing but try to please shareholders.

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dangil t1_ixohdsr wrote

That’s why we should stop buying until this is addressed

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PoopnEvryDay t1_ixm4v2g wrote

This is a result of the Chinese governments COVID lockdowns.

Apple is merely a contract holder. These people are foxconn workers and Chinese citizens. Apple can't tell foxconn how to treat their workers, and they certainly cant dictate how the Chinese government behaves.

Apple is making an effort to move manufacturing outside of China, but it's expected to take years.

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dangil t1_ixm8ren wrote

That’s all I ask. Force Foxconn out of China. Acknowledging that China is wrong.

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not_creative1 t1_ixmhzzk wrote

That is happening. It is a massive operation and it cannot happen overnight.

By 2025, 25% of all apple products will be made in india. This year for the first time in their history, apple’s flagship phone (14) was made outside of China in India

All of apple’s wearables (watch, AirPods) will be made in Vietnam

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ba-NANI t1_ixmi5sw wrote

Apple can 100% dictate how the workers are treated, and has accepted the price package of, "wow that's cheap labor, and all it cost us was looking the other way!"

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PoopnEvryDay t1_ixtq13p wrote

I wrote what I did in the order I wrote it for a reason 'dictate' was applied to the Chinese government. No, apple cannot tell foxconn how to treat its workers. They do not work for Apple.

Apple has opted to work with other factories in other countries, but this transition requires time and proper planning. Apple DOES have a responsibility to its actual employees and its shareholders, who invest in the company and keep the business afloat and its people employed.

No. Apple floating on it's networth is not the solution. In business Cash flow (and not networth) is king. A massive loss in investors, the lawsuits that come with poor business decisions and breach of contract, and the destruction of reputation has killed massive companies before. Apple being a trillion dollar company does not make them immune and they understand this.

There is no instant gratification solution that results in everyone singing kumbaya, as is often the case with reality. This is global commerce. It's great except for when it isn't.

Perhaps you think I'm fanboying or shilling for Apple. I am not, however if they choose to send me a check I would gladly accept it.

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