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ikantolol t1_jeeih6r wrote

can the justification be "because fuck you" ?

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AdriMecha t1_jeg7ihh wrote

Was thinking of saying something of the like "because deez nuts".....I just feel they might understand it a tad better.

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MichaelFusion44 t1_jeeiyqb wrote

This company is pure evil and I cannot imagine the EU allowing this approach to opting out.

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Tight-Ad447 t1_jeenrl2 wrote

As far as I know EU legislation states that data collection for Europeans by default is opt-in. When are the American companies going to get this?

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Educational-Ice-319 t1_jeesypk wrote

As long as legal divisions treat the interests of the consumer in data privacy as adversarial to the interests of the firm, US companies will not get this. It’s a conscious choice to prioritize a few extra immediate dollars over the intangibles of company reputation, long-term stability and differentiation, and overall compliance.

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Mist_Rising t1_jeh4yqh wrote

>When are the American companies going to get this?

Sometimes after it actually costs them money.

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HanaBothWays t1_jeerkb2 wrote

It will be much more difficult for people to opt out this way and they know it.

This is something called “administrative burden,” which is having to deal with a bunch of red tape and general bullshit to exercise your rights or receive benefits for which you qualify. It’s usually associated with dealing with government programs but it happens a lot in the private sector too.

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Art-Zuron t1_jef707j wrote

Because making something prohibitively difficult isn't technically prohibiting it!

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[deleted] t1_jeeii8m wrote

I mean data collection is their whole business model. Theyre going to drag their feet as much as possible

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Martin8412 t1_jeeq701 wrote

Well, then the EU just fines them 4% of their global revenue every 20 days until they comply.

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peadith t1_jeek036 wrote

If you do not consent but log on anyway you'd be a new kind of what used to be called "disturbed individual".

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zonzo2E t1_jefboio wrote

All data collection should be illegal without explicit concent, and must be made clear and obvious

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HaElfParagon t1_jeg1q01 wrote

Data collection should be illegal without personally negotiating with the subject on a price.

Wanna collect my data for free? Fuck you. Wanna collect my data by paying me $100 per data point per day? Be my guest.

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PierG1 t1_jefjkil wrote

Which in EU is. Unless specified by the user, non technical data collections is by default off

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SVZ0zAflBhUXXyKrF5AV t1_jefnq5k wrote

I cannot find the report now, years ago an ISP here in the UK did a trial of data mining (I think they used deep packet inspection) and injecting averts on their unsuspecting customers.

When they were caught out they said they decided not to tell their customers as they claimed their customers wouldn't understand. The government and related watchdog did nothing about it. I recall reading that the relevant branch of the EU threatened to sue the UK government if they didn't act. I don't recall what the outcome was.

I believe the trial was conducted by BT Internet and a third party company whose advert related tech they used.

At the time I recall the IT/tech news sources were reporting it as that's where I read about it. I don't know what the general news media reported on the subject.

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Educational-Ice-319 t1_jeesq6p wrote

Yeah nah, that won’t fly. It doesn’t even fly here in the US, an opt-out requirement is an opt-out, justification has no place here

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Heres_your_sign t1_jeewv0g wrote

So don't use their platforms. It's that easy.

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WhatTheZuck420 t1_jeesb1e wrote

can you imagine to level of the mind that dreamt this up?

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G3sch4n t1_jegr0se wrote

Yeah an idiot. This probably breaks a shitload of European regulations and will result in significant fines for facebook.

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jojomott t1_jeen3og wrote

Why would anyone accept this treatment just to access garbage?

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JAYKEBAB t1_jeezz7d wrote

Justification? WTF!

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Head-Ad4770 t1_jef6srg wrote

So if your justification is not valid, they basically continue to harvest your information out from underneath you without your consent. I’m in the US, but congrats Facebook/Meta, you just lost a user for life if this starts to be implemented in the US. 😫

Should I just smash my Oculus Quest 2 to pieces with a sledgehammer, chuck the remains out a window, and then buy a new VR headset at this point?

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OB1_error t1_jegmowk wrote

> Should I just smash my Oculus Quest 2 to pieces with a sledgehammer, chuck the remains out a window, and then buy a new VR headset at this point?

No! Sell it for a competitive price so someone who was going to give them money now… won’t.

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Head-Ad4770 t1_jef8k3o wrote

If it does get implemented in the US though, I have a feeling it wouldn’t last long before being struck down by the US Supreme Court

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Daedelous2k t1_jeepaco wrote

I wonder if they will try to tack on charges or downgrade functionality as a result of less monetization.

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Clean_Judgment912 t1_jef3vn5 wrote

I hope the EU will tell these surveillance capitalists to bigger off to India, where nobody cares about privacy

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Loa_Sandal t1_jef5htg wrote

Not pictured in the article: Margrethe Vestager, sharpening an axe.

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ekkidee t1_jef5umn wrote

"Because I want to" ??

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Fabiolean t1_jefn1pu wrote

God they're so unbelievably shady.

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LexVex02 t1_jegb8pc wrote

Fuck fb and the way they hack people's brains.

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paulsteinway t1_jegfl1i wrote

Let me guess: They have to mail the form in.

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primal___scream t1_jegjq67 wrote

Justification: because you're greedy motherfcukers, and I don't like you.

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irn t1_jegp1l2 wrote

That’s gotta be fucking illegal when you look at the GDPR. No other company that uses data could get away with this.

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