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poop-machine t1_jc1c53q wrote

Musk is clueless about how the real world works.

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DeathGPT t1_jc23yhd wrote

Okay poop-machine, pretty sure Elon is just another cog in the machine of capitalism that has led the brutality of corrupt success in America.

Don’t hate the player being Elon, hate the game being corporate America and the gov. for allowing people Like Elon to succeed.

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blindedtrickster t1_jc29hqd wrote

xD

How many times has any variant of 'Don't hate the player, hate the game" been a reasonable argument?

It's way more valid to recognize, as you may have been trying to do, that responsibility doesn't lie with only one individual. You could have easily said that Elon's actions are rediculous and simultaneously lampooned American capitalism, and government, as being a massively influential in Elon's efforts.

But you didn't. You basically said that Elon's not the problem. That's not true. He's not the only problem. Hell, he's not the biggest problem either! But he's part of a compounding problem.

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DeathGPT t1_jc2doq9 wrote

I completely understand where you're coming from, and I agree that it's important to recognize that responsibility doesn't lie with only one individual. When we say "don't hate the player, hate the game", what we mean is that we shouldn't blame individuals for the flaws in a system, but rather look at the systemic issues that are causing those flaws.

I think you all seem to forget, Elon pretty much Saved Ukraine on the battlefield with the release of Starlink. But ohh just forget about his good contributions like good little basement commies who repeat the same mainstream ideas on a daily. If 90% of your thoughts are someone else’s, or just ideas perpetuated from an assortment of Redditers and tweeters - become original.

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blindedtrickster t1_jc2tsga wrote

> we shouldn't blame individuals for the flaws in a system

I still disagree with this mentality. If you recognize that it's a bad system, what reasonable basis is there to conclude that taking advantage of a bad aspect of a system doesn't assign some level of 'badness' to a person?

Elon's system has helped Ukraine, yes, but he's still looking at is as 'how profitable can this be for me?'. Profit as a primary motive is incredibly dangerous and I don't think it's a good thing. Profit isn't inherently bad, but when profit takes the form of price gouging, it clearly is bad. So there is some form of line in the sand where 'don't hate the player, hate the game' stops being a defendable perspective.

Elon didn't create the technology and he almost doubled the cost to Ukraine-based Starlink subscriptions. He saw an opportunity for more profit and had no problem with it. He didn't care about what negative effects that could/would have on Ukraine.

So no, 'don't hate the player, hate the game' isn't a good methodology. It's bad because bad players working to create a rigged game. If you're unwilling to look at the people creating a rigged game and simply blame the game, you won't ever fix the game.

Finally, it's not a game. It's entire economies and real people. It's regular people's livelihoods. It's important.

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