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CloudDweller182 t1_jaciqoo wrote

Still remember the days when Estonia was as good as USA is now. Now we are where USA used to be, at the back of the pack.

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KauaiRoosterParty t1_jaclerp wrote

She is on a mission. Amazing to see such a great athlete continue to push forward. 💪

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DigMeTX t1_jacncxh wrote

Wooow! That is amazing!

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Semen_K t1_jacozip wrote

wow I did not know they give out medals for skiing across the country!

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FSchmertz t1_jacqbd1 wrote

Guessing you have a few less people than the US?

If you have less to pick from, you're less likely to find the "best in the world."

It's just that the US didn't have that many X-C skiers in the past, and still doesn't have a lot of places with the necessary snow for it.

Signed Captain Obvious? ;)

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nimama3233 t1_jacspyr wrote

What a boss. She’s from Saint Paul and that makes me proud as a local!

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robspeaks t1_jacwr94 wrote

Her gold-medal finish in the team sprint at the 2018 Olympics was thrilling.

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GeneralLynx3 t1_jacwyo3 wrote

They advertise renting snowshoes and cross country skiing equipment in our area. I was not surprised she’s from Minnesota. It’s SO popular here.

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l_--__--_l t1_jad0gv2 wrote

In 1976, Bill Koch won the US’ first xc Olympic medal, a silver in the men's 30 km race at the Innsbruck Olympics.

The result was so unexpected that US TV didn’t even cover the race.

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cho_bits t1_jad2tmq wrote

Yup, he created skate skiing (edit apparently popularized but didn’t create!) a much faster technique that totally revolutionized the sport, similar to what the Fosbury flop did for the high jump.

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niems3 t1_jad6gkb wrote

I’d say it’s more similar to the butterfly stroke in swimming. Some dude figured out that the motions of the butterfly were legal within the former rules of the breast stroke, so he did that and they ended up creating a new discipline within swimming. Skate and Classic are two different disciplines within Nordic skiing. The manufacturers loved it because it required everyone to have two sets of equipment 😂

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QuirrelsTurban t1_jad8npn wrote

I remember watching the team sprint in 2018 during the Olympics and just being so psyched that America won the gold with Diggins and Randall. Just love watching a sport normally dominated by other countries being won by country who doesn't usually win the top prize.

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AGreatBandName t1_jadb0oi wrote

Cross country skiing is not a mass participation sport in the US. I live in a place that gets reliable snow (or at least it used to up until a decade ago), and you would really have to seek out xc ski racing. Every high school has basketball teams in my area, but very few have xc skiing even though it would be a good complement to track (spring) and cross country running (fall).

Yes there is a lot of potential for finding the best with a higher population, but if these people never get introduced to the sport it won’t happen. On the other hand Norway has a population of less than Minnesota, but routinely dominates xc and biathlon. (Speaking of biathlon, you’d think the US would be good at it because, ya know, guns, but it’s the only Olympic sport we’ve never medaled in)

Hopefully one thing that will come out of the success of the American women in xc skiing over the past few years is increased interest in the sport, not just competitively but also recreationally. If nothing else it would give the people in my area a fun activity to do in the winter so they’d stop bitching every time it snows.

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cho_bits t1_jadj5hy wrote

Ah yeah fair point! Skate didn’t replace classic. I’m Just glad more people are learning about the sport as a whole! I saw an interview with Kikkan Randall a few years ago and she talked about how she’s a huge celebrity in Europe and then she goes home and nobody recognizes her, even though at the time she was one of the best and most successful athletes representing the US.

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tylerhovi t1_jadjb31 wrote

If you haven't done it yet, do it. XC Skiing is a lifetime sport, I just jumped on the train here this year (in Minn.) and have been absolutely hooked. No better way to enjoy winter here than XC skiing.

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alinroc t1_jadkc8b wrote

It’s not “recent years.” It’s been terrible since I can remember (1988) and every 2 years gets worse.

One glorious winter I had access to CBC and NBC for the Winter Games and CBC’s coverage was excellent.

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1imp4n t1_jadkenf wrote

Congrats Jessie! I was hoping for Ebba or Frida but I'm glad Jessie won it, anytime a nation other than Sweden or Norway wins is good for the sport.

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MJsLoveSlave t1_jadm2j6 wrote

My sleepy ass read this as "cross-dresser" at first

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Buckscience t1_jadml24 wrote

Jessie is an indisputably great person, and an amazing ambassador for the sport. In 2011(?) she raced nationals in Rumford, ME, and wrote a glowing letter thanking everybody--volunteers, the town, the spectators. Next year they returned to Rumford, so I somehow contacted her and asked her if she'd visit our school to speak. She declined that, with busy schedule, and wanting to reduce exposure to the cesspool of germs in a school, but offered to ski with the middle school team I coached. She brought along Jennie Bender, who was also a pretty big-deal racer. My son was in 8th grade at the time, and has gone on to ski collegiately and now coaches at Alaska-Fairbanks, in no small part because of Jessie and Jennie.

She's a hero.

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Buckscience t1_jadmwwp wrote

They're coming back. My kid coaches Mariel Pulles and Chris Kalev at Fairbanks and got to coach them at World Uni Games. Mariel, in particular, is a good one. She'll start making some noise on the World Cup tour soon.

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sublime1691 t1_jadn5ut wrote

Remember when the snowboarder Ludeska won Olympic gold in downhill skiing after they shut the coverage off? And had to bounce back on replay to show the greatest upset ever?

Edit- reminded it was Super G, point stands

Yup NBC Olympic coverage is awful if it's not figure skating.

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Buckscience t1_jadno5i wrote

So many of the top racers are easy to root for. Jessie will always be my favorite, but on any given day it's usually easy to be happy for whoever is on the podium...though I can't say I miss Johaug that much...

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borderlineidiot t1_jadny4q wrote

I must be too tired. I read that as she skied across the country from coast to coast.

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AGreatBandName t1_jado5b2 wrote

Video of all the biathlon World Cup (a series of races for top competitors throughout each winter) and world championships races are free at https://www.eurovisionsports.tv/ibu/

The biathlon world championships were just held a week or two ago. There are several different formats of races - interval starts where each person competes individually and whoever has the best time at the end wins, relays with either same-gender or mixed-gender, and a mass start where everyone starts at once and the first across the line wins.

The men’s and women’s mass starts were both particularly good this year, they’d be a good introduction to biathlon imo.

Men: https://www.eurovisionsports.tv/ibu/#ABSQGMVLKH
Women: https://www.eurovisionsports.tv/ibu/#APVTYFQZ33

There’s also /r/biathlon but I don’t really go on there much so I can’t vouch for it myself.

Cheers!

Edit: the link for the men’s race doesn’t work right, this one will take you directly to the video: https://ebu-emp.ebu.ch/embed/ABSQGMVLKH

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kultom t1_jadouqz wrote

As a Norwegian and so used to watching whole races when growing up and not recaps like this, wtf with the random signing of the board. This frantic cutting in this recap is the weirdest experience in a while. Was this some AI doing this?

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Pileofme t1_jadpi2s wrote

When she feels exhaustion start to take hold, she internally repeats 17 "dig-in"s.

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zoinkability t1_jadpiiq wrote

Yay Jessie! She is a phenomenal skier and person. Her memoir "Brave Enough" is well worth a read. And she has been a role model for teambuilding and team member inclusion in a sport where some stars have been notably aloof from their national teams.

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Agitated-Airline6760 t1_jadpkw2 wrote

Yup, countless example of showing events on tape delayed when it should've/could've been shown live and then not showing the full event but chop it up where they only show american(s) and perhaps medal winning portion if applicable. And also broadcast it where for something like SG event - btw Ledecká won the upset gold in SuperG event not downhill but hey close enough for government work - will be done with showing like 5-6 skiers on tape delay then go 4 minute commercial break then go back to figure skating for 40 minutes then come back and show 6 other SG runs.

The only good thing I can say is, at least with streaming which NBC was forced to do, I can watch the events live instead of only prime time chopped up "plausibly live" coverage.

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ActualWhiterabbit t1_jadrhws wrote

So it turns out the secret to being a successful Minnesota skiier is to wear your own bib.

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sublime1691 t1_jadrkyd wrote

Forgot it was Super g but still a premier event in which I got to watch them scramble to try to figure out how they missed in a Marquee event they missed it entirely. I get she started like 45th, and almost never happens, but even their make up replay coverage was so tone deaf. Like they cared more about explaining why they totally weren't wrong for not staying live.

I mean I might have cut it after the first 30. But just fix it with a good add on coverage. Don't cut back in to explain how right you were. Lol

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sublime1691 t1_jadskno wrote

I agree. Streaming will save the shit show of their broadcasting so they can focus on 4 hours of ice dancing. It's basically dancing with the stars for them and I guess that's what viewers eat up.

I'm guessing Michaela shiffrin will win her 120th title on replay while the Estonian pair in ice dancing puts up an 11th place performance live. 😃

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Agitated-Airline6760 t1_jadssd9 wrote

It was worse than you remember b/c Ledecká was bib# 26. I mean I get that only the top 20 is seeded and alpine racing is not figure skating. But come on NBC should've put it on live on one of the gazillion cable channels uninterrupted until the conclusion of the race/event.

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sublime1691 t1_jadvu9x wrote

Jessie Diggens back on topic has actually changed the culture of cross country skiing in Minnesota. She has set up camps and has young Minnesotans thinking they can beat the Scandinavians at their own game. I'm pretty sure there are a few inspired by her that are getting ready to be next.

She's a pretty amazing person. Won't lie, got an autograph when she did a event in Duluth after her win in 18.

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cmnthom t1_jadwpdq wrote

She’s “one of us” in my area. Local news outlets creaming their pants right now.

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tribrnl t1_jae0yru wrote

It looks so fun, but I'm in Kansas, so we don't have the sustained cold and snow over the winter to be able to try it without traveling. Plus I'm a cyclist, so there's some overlap there (it seems like xc ski is popular cross training).

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WesternOne9990 t1_jae4n14 wrote

She went to my high school! Apparently my older brother had a few classes. We got to stop class and watch her compete.

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WesternOne9990 t1_jae58uv wrote

It’s commonplace in Minnesota.

I actually sorta competed on the same cross country team as her basically because men and womens team practiced together… I was 4 years too young to know her but my brother did from classes.

She also lived in Afton where they have the ski hill called afton alps attached to afton state park where they have groomed trails for Nordic, which is what we called cross country.

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sketchanderase t1_jae6okp wrote

Chad Salmela, the caller, is from Duluth, MN, Diggins' home state. He did a podcast interview about it. I'll find it.

I don't know if this is the episode, but this is relevant. He also hosts a podcast titled Threshold.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy50cmFuc2lzdG9yLmZtL25vcmRpYy1uYXRpb24/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly9mYXN0ZXJza2llci5jb20vP3Bvc3RfdHlwZT1hcnRpY2xlJnA9MTc2Njg4?ep=14

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WesternOne9990 t1_jae7uri wrote

Here during the Minnesota summers it’s not an uncommon site on the bike trails and foot paths to see people “skiing” on their extended roller blades that are basically skis with wheels. I’ve only tried it once, fun fact i got to use those roller blades for summer practice while being apart of the same Nordic team she was on but like four years after.

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SD_prairie_Goat t1_jae8z87 wrote

I'm on your side. Really not that hard to learn how to ski. Learning to ski well is more about being amazingly in shape, technical skill comes later.

I'm guessing all the down votes have never tried skiing and just imagine it's difficult

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rufusvonburon t1_jaeajx7 wrote

Makes me cry every time even though it’s not my sport. I suppose it’s the mostly the passionate announcing but there’s something about when she launches into the final sprint. A solo athlete on the brink of exhaustion digging in for an effort that they’ve dedicated their whole life to.

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Chrissie319 t1_jaed1py wrote

Wow! Had to read that title twice. Not the first woman. Not the first man. Not the first black American. But the first American wow! That’s impressive!!

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anon19111 t1_jaehs4n wrote

Can someone post a link to the actual event instead of whatever the F that dumb NBC musak video they had at the linked article?

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madscandi t1_jaej7y3 wrote

He didn't create it. Johan Grøttumsbråten used it all the way back in the 1930s, and it was used in ski marathons up until Koch built on it and popularized it in the 80s on the biggest stage.

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Forkrul t1_jaekk80 wrote

I've skied up mountains, down mountains and across highlands on cross country skis since I was a little boy. It's really not hard, you just need to be in decent shape if you want to go fast. My mom is past 70 and still goes for 5 or 10 mile trips regularly for some light exercise.

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CloudDweller182 t1_jaepe6e wrote

Well non of the medal winner were never caught doping i guess but they probably were doing it. Guess they had good enough support team to make sure they are “cleared”.

Tho the recent doping scandal, boosting and still finishing 60++, just goes to show that even if you do dope, you still got to have the strength and skill to compete for medal.

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Frankishism t1_jaeqwza wrote

Biathlon is a big deal for me because it was the first sport where I enjoyed watching men’s and women events equally, and then I realized my gender bias in sports and changed my attitude across the board. I was a younger teenager at the time, so always a bit thankful. Also I hope the U.S. gets a medal soon.

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91singletrack t1_jaexj7u wrote

This is a big deal. A huge achievement. Congratulations Jesse Diggins.

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Mormegil1971 t1_jaeycwp wrote

Few have deserved it more. Congrats from Sweden!

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madladolle t1_jaez6cp wrote

Frida and Ebba will take her in the next race

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