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BRockStar916 t1_j8b83e6 wrote

Derek Carr giving the Raiders the royal f*ck you

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Vegas_off_the_Strip t1_j8byozn wrote

I agree with him. Why would he weaken the team he is going to by making them give something to the Raiders in a trade for him when he’ll be a free agent?

Plus, requiring a trade likely reduces the number of teams he can go to and all negotiations have to start with the Raiders.

Just wait, make them waive you, and then you can negotiate with every team out there.

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davisyoung t1_j8cis32 wrote

His contract was extended last offseason so he actually has three years left. A trade benefits Carr in that he would continue to be paid under the current contract which is like $35M next year and over $40M for each of the last two. I suspect the price was too high hence the negotiations with the Saints. He becomes a free agent only if the Raiders release him. Carr might not get as much in a new contract put he was highly motivated to fuck over the Raiders.

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ATLL2112 t1_j8cs2zy wrote

I think this is more about having more options for landing spots. Teams likely not willing to give up much in a trade for him given the circumstances, so there's probably not many suitors currently.

As a FA he can take his pick of any team in search of a competent QB such as NO, NYJ, CAR, HOU, INDY, WAS, TB, ATL. He can probably pick his spot if he's willing to be flexible with his contract.

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Vegas_off_the_Strip t1_j8efp2i wrote

I 100% agree. And at this point I suspect Carr would gladly give up some money to be on a true Superbowl caliber team.

Brady hasn’t been the top paid QB in forever. He basically takes $25m per year and makes sure part of his pay cut goes toward an OLine that keeps him clean every game and that is how he’s simultaneously played games and drawn social security checks.

I think Carr watched Matthew Stafford go from an entire career of “next year is our year” with Detroit to a Super Bowl ring with the Rams and Carr wants to try and change his legacy in the same way.

If I were Carr I would get cut, go to the Jets for $25m and take them to the playoffs. Jetts have an insanely loyal fanbase and that’s a legit NY team. The advertising opportunities would pour in if he just wins the AFC. They have a top 5 defense, tons of young skill players and a good O line and solid coaching.

In two years he would basically be neighbors with McDaniels again when McDaniels is fired and goes back home to be his daddy’s OC in New England.

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ATLL2112 t1_j8efwi8 wrote

Jets definitely seem like a quality landing spot. They might not be SB bound just by adding a competent QB, but if they had one this year, they'd have at least made them playoffs.

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Vegas_off_the_Strip t1_j8eisyq wrote

And if you get the Jetts past the first round of the playoffs 3 or more times you are a Jetts legend. That fanbase is desperate and loyal.

There is nowhere else that Carr has the potential to become a local god in the way he can with the Jetts. Hell, he doesn’t even have to win a SB there. But if he does then he gets statues and babies named after him.

Incidentally, I think this is why Rodgers will want to go there as well. Aaron seems so preoccupied with his ego and his legacy that the chance to be a franchise’s brightest star since Broadway Joe Namath in the 60s & 70s will have a strong appeal to Aaron; and Rodgers probably thinks he would be a bigger star than Joe (he wouldn’t).

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Vegas_off_the_Strip t1_j8edd99 wrote

He’s not going to get drastically less. He has made a ton of money playing for shitty organizations already.

He watched his brother have a career ended before it began because of a shitty organization’s incompetence.

I imagine if you told Carr that he could make $35m & $40m playing for Raiders/McDaniels and missing the playoffs the next two years or make $25m both years but on a super bowl contending team he would take the $25m.

It’s not just the money and playoff opportunities. He will get extra years if he plays somewhere that he isn’t killed behind a shitty O-line every game.

Plus, if he is on a team making playoff runs each year he’ll get extended. But on a team that misses the playoff because of a lot of one score losses (like Raiders this year) he is not getting extended and is being blamed for organizational failures that are out of his control (exactly what happened with the Raiders this year).

Raiders have made it clear they are moving on at QB. That means they will cut him because no NFL team can afford to pay a backup QB $35m. Especially not while paying the starter top money. The Raiders have no good rookie QBs on their roster so they are looking at veterans (Rodgers seems to be their preference) and that’s expensive.

Hell, look at how many of the playoff teams have QBs on their rookie deal, which allows for more money going to the rest of the roster. Jalen Hurts, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, you get the point. I’m not going to include Brock Purdy or Trey Lance here because the 49ers couldn’t unload Jimmy G last year and had his contact on the books.

When the Chiefs paid Mahomes they had to make decisions for who, ultimately, would not get paid and that cost them Tyreek Hill.

There is just no way that Raiders keep him as a backup.

What is possible is that the Raiders run into a situation where they don’t get anyone better and don’t cut him and have to bring him back for a lame duck year similar to what happened with San Francisco and Mr Glass (aka, Jimmy G) this past season. However, I think McDaniels wants Carr out of the building as quick as he can get rid of him so that McDaniels might lose some of his competition for Rodgers. Realize that there are only a handful of teams that the top veterans will go to and McDaniels has to compete against those teams for the QBs. I think McDaniels hopes Carr signs with the Jets or Tennessee, which is probably the Raiders’ top competition for Rodgers because those are complete teams with good defense and good coaching that are probably just a QB away from going deep in the playoffs. If one of those sign Carr, then it increases Vegas’s chances of getting Aaron.

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XxNHLxX t1_j8gbdjd wrote

As a Broncos fan, I never thought I’d be saying it, but hell yeah I love what Carr is doing

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[deleted] t1_j8c2fjg wrote

Feel bad for whatever team brings him on, in hopes of success… the guy simply loses

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GrumpyGanker t1_j8c53wl wrote

It will be interesting to come back to this comment in a year or two. You might be right…Carr might suck.

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[deleted] t1_j8c5qrs wrote

I’m certain wherever he goes, they won’t be as patient as the Raiders were…

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popothemailman t1_j8bfs6d wrote

No team is willing to take on that contract. Saints were willing to trade on the condition of a contract rework…

Let’s face it Fam. In a division with MVP Mahomes, Herbert and Wilson/Payton. Carr can’t hang

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Themnor t1_j8bl14x wrote

He was hanging just fine until known QB destroyer Josh McDaniels got ahold of him. Only QB he’s done well with is the GOAT and that says more about Brady than McDaniels.

And if he’s rejecting trades is because there are offers

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BCLetsRide69 OP t1_j8bwcc9 wrote

As a Broncos fan… we warned all the Raiders fans about McDaniels. He was absolute shit here.

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SevereRunOfFate t1_j8cj6i8 wrote

As a Seahawks fan.. we tried warning all the Bronc-- actually, never mind.

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BCLetsRide69 OP t1_j8cjana wrote

Russ looked fine last 3 games of the season with Rosburg as interim HC. Keep in mind a lot of the games we played were close losses. Russ will bounce back with Payton, Hackett was a TERRIBLE HC.

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popothemailman t1_j8by4uy wrote

Rejecting because there are offers? He’s rejecting so 1) he can control his destiny and more importantly 2) he’s realizing he’s not gonna get 40mil/year so might as well get that 5mil a year from the Raiders + that new contract money which probably still won’t add up to 40mil/year

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popothemailman t1_j8bxm1s wrote

Carr was checking down in the pro bowl. Give me a break. He’s good, not 40mil/yr good

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