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Ton777 t1_j28vibg wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in How are we feeling about a possible UBI? by theshadowturtle

Agreed. If the idea of UBI is that everyone can sit on their asses and magically get handed money, what even is money at that point? Money is a communication tool to express value. Value comes from people expending energy and time to solve problems, innovate in ways that other people find useful.

The ways we bring value will change with technology as they always have, but disincentivizing people to innovate, solve problems and bring value to world (ie, work) is a dumb idea imo.

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Clean_Livlng t1_j2c6nmg wrote

> If the idea of UBI is that everyone can sit on their asses and magically get handed money, what even is money at that point?

At that point money is a limit on consumption, so that everyone gets what their fair share of resources, and nobody takes too much.

Those who work in addition to that will receive more, and have a higher standard of living. But everyone should have enough.

At some point AI/AGI might take over the innovation that humans currently do.

People will always create work for themselves, personal and group projects etc but UBI means people would be free to be part of projects just because they want to be, and not because they need the money. But things still work the same as normal in terms of those who want more than the baseline level of luxury that UBI provides.

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