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Ezekiel_W t1_iqrabl8 wrote

Yes, people really need to understand that mass automation is already here it's just in the beginning stages. A lot of jobs are going to be gone by 2030, a metric shit ton of jobs.

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LeifInVinland t1_iqrjnl0 wrote

if we want this too be a positive, remember too campaign for ubi and other wealth redistribution methods.

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Artanthos t1_iqt0djj wrote

Good luck with that.

The companies that are automating already have their lobbies in place.

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Devanismyname t1_iqsfa97 wrote

Not UBI, wage subsidy. So if a company hires 10 people right now for one job, in 10 years they cut the hours in half and hire twice as many people. The people get paid the same amount, because the government subsidizes their wages. The company loses nothing, people can still work, and it serves a similar purpose to UBI but without the mass depression from being locked in your apartment all day. Part time work isn't soul crushing and you still have something to get out of bed for everyday. If you can live a comfortable life working 20 hours a week rather than 40, and you can do it at something that isn't fast food, I think that's a healthy life.

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Analog_AI t1_iqt0una wrote

The companies replace human labor with machines to save money and cut costs, not to spread the wage fund over more employees. They are not philanthropists but competition forced capitalists.

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Devanismyname t1_iqt4qt3 wrote

Not all jobs will be automated right away. Servers, construction, policing, etc. Lower the hours in places where people are still needed.

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Analog_AI t1_iqt53o7 wrote

You are correct: not all jobs will be automated right away, indeed. No one said they will be. They will be automated only when the automation of a job can be done cheaper and with less errors than the same job performed by a human worker. It was always so.

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RubiksSugarCube t1_iqshn4a wrote

By 2030 America's 65+ demo is expected to be ~20% of the population, which is where Japan is right now. If we're going to keep all of these retired people fed, housed, entertained and cared for, we're going to need a lot more automation. We're already experiencing significant labor shortages in all kinds of industries.

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Quealdlor t1_iqsvobe wrote

Yes, that's true. We are seeing labor shortages, instead of automation making people unemployable. So I don't think humans will not perform work in the near future. To the contrary - in the near future there will be A LOT of work to do by humans.

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Artanthos t1_iqt04iq wrote

I’ve physically visited distribution centers that will only have 10% of the work force that would have been required 20 years ago.

Automation is happening today. It’s just not reached the point where the general population has awareness.

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Fun_Prize_1256 t1_iqs0bxi wrote

What percentage of jobs do you think?

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Artanthos t1_iqt1aq2 wrote

In distribution centers, their is approximately a 90% labor reduction between a state-of-the-art facility and a traditional facility.

That is here and now. It is happening today, not the near future.

Mid Journey and related text-to-art AIs are already looking at displacing huge numbers of commercial artists in the next year or two.

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