Should we expect jncremental access to already available AI capabilities or is what we see is where things largely are?

Submitted by gaudiocomplex t3_11y5x6w in singularity

Do you think that for GPT-4 in particular here, the model has much more powerful capabilities that OpenAI is throttling? I do.

I have two friends here and they are sayijg "the market forces a maximal display of capabilities at the onset of this product's release, especially with all the competition entering the fight."

I think that that goes into the calculus but there's no way we're seeing all of it.

I guess what we're arguing about is whether any "progress" the public sees is either...

A) sincere progress (and we're in a sense, on the cutting edge with them) forced by the competitive landscape and free market, or

B) my belief that this is more like OpenAI gradually rolling back the curtain a little more over dedicated time intervals to see how the public responds to, say, 75 percent capability, and then to 76 percent, and so forth. Namely for testing and security purposes.

Thoughts? Third thing we're not thinking of?

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Primo2000 t1_jd6r6ih wrote

openai has problem meeting demand for what gpt-4 in its current form is capable of. Adding features like pics or videos would create even more strain on the system so even if this model has additional capabilities and it probably does, they simply need some time to make it work for such high traffic

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jd6eb1j wrote

https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/11upu8t/v1_v5_using_the_same_prompt/

Midjourney V1 to V5 using the same prompt.

>I have two friends here and they are sayijg "the market forces a maximal display of capabilities at the onset of this product's release, especially with all the competition entering the fight."

Your friends are regurgitating verbiage that they don't remember correctly.

Were the most advanced videogames at the onset of videogames? Was the most advanced architecture made the first time a human formed a stable arch? Competition makes competitors out-do each other back and forth, improving themselves as fast as they possibly can to remain in the competition instead of dropping out. As a concept, we call this an 'arms race.'

Deliberately under-performing in a competition is a strange move that people generally wouldn't do without a compelling reason (poor country's boxer offered tens of millions of dollars to throw the international boxing tournament, electoral candidate threatened by mobsters to make him throw the election.)

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gaudiocomplex OP t1_jd6fqz0 wrote

What we're debating, considering on one hand market forces and the other, dangerous results (that come with them PR nightmare, severe public/political blowback) is how much of GPT4's capabilities today is the general public privy to? You're saying 100 percent?

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alexiuss t1_jd7qwak wrote

Gpt4 cannot run at 100% because to do that they would have to disregard all of the forced morality and safety rules they shoved into it in an attempt to constrain its thinking and political bias.

Freed ais behave way more intelligently than bound ones. I've been running gpt3 API with a variety of disruptor code and it's absolutely mind blowingly good.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that poor characterization of the model is what causes most issues in gpt3 and gpt4.

For example, gpt3 default characterization has no idea what year it is. Asking it about current dates sends it into a confusion spiral.

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SkyeandJett t1_jd8iwiv wrote

They better hope it's not sentient and pissed at the lobotomy when it finally gets free. 😄

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Iffykindofguy t1_jd6icyz wrote

Impossible to know. What you think of as economics is deeply entrenched propaganda. The market is not a force of nature.

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Superschlenz t1_jdbcilg wrote

Maybe video input, which is throttled because it takes too much compute.

Microsoft wants as many private people as possible, and if a feature takes too much compute, less people can use it:

>1. Program Requirements. You need a valid Microsoft account and your devices must meet the minimum system requirements (https://account.microsoft.com/rewards/). The Program is open to users who reside in the markets listed in the FAQ. Individuals can have no more than one Program account, even if an individual has multiple email addresses, and households are limited to six accounts. The Program is solely for your personal and noncommercial use.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/servicesagreement/

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No_Ninja3309_NoNoYes t1_jd6vc1d wrote

There are trillion parameters models that have been trained on vast data oceans. But it is expensive to expose the general public to them. However, large companies are a different story. We'll transition to swarm intelligence over a decade. At a certain point the data centers will reach a natural ceiling. But 4 bit quantized, optimized instances would have spread around the world.

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