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play_yr_part t1_j9wjphf wrote

this. IDK the timeframe for completely autonomous self driving as it seems to have been "within a decade" for like a decade now lol w but with Tesla's self driving at least, recent updates have sometimes been one step forward two steps back.

Entirely possible another car maker's version could change that in a flash though.

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helpskinissues t1_j9wpg4g wrote

So having 24x7 no-driver self driving cars operating in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Phoenix (and waiting to obtain license to run on New York and other cities) is not "completely autonomous driving"? Why do you focus on Tesla that isn't even trying to replace drivers?

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play_yr_part t1_ja5n5p7 wrote

Late reply, and I confess my ignorance about Waymo other than the occasional thing I see on social media. If they're likely to scale up in a way where things will be vastly different in several years time then fair enough.

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Kennybob12 t1_j9wph4w wrote

Mercedes actually just passed tesla with their certification to use their fsd based system in the US. Which to me is a better sign than any that we are approaching that precipice. Im much more interested in relevant biz injecting some ai into their process than some hot shot with a (or some rockets) dream who cant make a decent vehicle to save his life.

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Surur t1_j9xj4ww wrote

Mercedes's system is really bad - it just follows the car in front, and if there is not a car in front it wont activate.

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Kennybob12 t1_ja3tpxh wrote

Are you in nevada? That is the only place it's been registered to operate as of today. Otherwise, yes you are still driving a level 2. No matter what your experience is, there takes a certain level of criteria to be certified as level 3. Tesla doesn't just get some magic pass. They dont have it. They are close, but by going off radar they will create more problems than they will solve.

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Kennybob12 t1_ja433w0 wrote

you're absolutely right the last time i saw a mercedes phantom break or spontaneously combust was because of its inferior autopilot. Maybe the software is there, but the car is miles away from what it promises. And unfortunately you still drive a car, not a program.

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