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ExtraFun4319 t1_j9ijmok wrote

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As someone who actually works in a related field and is pretty familiar with the actual field of AI itself, and have met and know people with all sorts of work backgrounds which has given me insight about many work fields, I am extremely doubtful that ChatGPT (in any capacity) will result in major layoffs.

The technology just isn't there, and I don't see it getting there (to the level where it'd cause the economic damage you're describing) anytime soon.

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Electronic_Source_70 t1_j9iw65f wrote

The problem with this is that unless they work in Google or Amazon, it's hard to know because all the advance and powerful models' info haven't been sent to the public or info is known. Also do they work in computer vision, ML or LLMs or other deep learning fields and are the AI engineers actual ones with credibility or are they SE that watch George hotz or something because I don't believe you unless your related field is neuroscience if that's the case I will shut up and hid in the corner.

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turnip_burrito t1_j9j3k3y wrote

Neuroscience has basically no relationship to machine learning at this point (Neural networks are just """inspired"""^(TM) by neuroscience) so I wouldn't trust anyone but an AI specialist.

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[deleted] t1_j9j9o40 wrote

Computational neuroscientists, they use a lot of the same techniques but for different purposes.

Plus a lot of the leading research centres for computational neuroscience tend to also be involved in AI and machine learning

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turnip_burrito t1_j9ja3q5 wrote

What problems are the computational neuroscientists trying to solve? Modeling parts of brains using artificial neural networks (the ML kind)?

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nexapp t1_j9m1k0m wrote

Oh it will result in massive layoffs, no doubt about it. The whole point is optimize and reduce redundancy / costly work flows. If UBI doesn't catch-up, this will most certainly lead to major political upheavals world-wide.

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visarga t1_ja8dm4q wrote

That's a naive view that doesn't take into consideration the second order effects. In 5-10 years companies will have to compete with more advanced products that use AI, a lot of that new found AI productivity will be spent to level off with the competition instead of raking in absurd profits. And lowering prices will help consumers.

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NoidoDev t1_j9iuhtl wrote

Could it reduce the numbers of required people and create more competition by elevating some people using such tools. Could this be done remote, maybe even without too much knowledge what the company does, so it could be outsourced? Could a combination of input into some AI based system from the top and the bottom, with some oversight of a much smaller number of middle mangers reduce how many of them are needed?

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iamozymandiusking t1_j9kg9hp wrote

Of course it’s a huge unknown right now how all this will settle out, but it’s also worth remembering that computers were supposedly going to reduce the need for people, but it just upped expectations of productivity. Something similar will happen here. Certainly some jobs will be less valuable, and likely some skills will be more valuable, such as the ability to effectively direct AI tools to a desired result. And then some entirely new roles will come into existence.

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Artanthos t1_j9labqn wrote

Depending on what you did, there was a massive wave of right sizing in the 80s, just as computers were becoming more popular.

Things like secretarial pools went away.

Yes, programmers of various flavors came into high demand, eventually creating more jobs than were lost,

The difference is, this time you won’t need more people to program the computers, you will need fewer. There will be no new high positions created for those displaced.

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feedmaster t1_j9m117q wrote

Of course chatGPT won't, but GPT4, 5, 6 definitely will. GPT4 is coming this year already and could be an order of magnitude better than chatGPT. This change will come quickly.

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