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Nothingtoseeheremmk t1_j4en63m wrote

How is that any different than consuming unnecessary resources that contribute to suffering?

Why is eating an animal worse than playing a video game that causes the death of an animal or another organism? Neither is necessary for survival.

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shadar t1_j4enr8p wrote

Because you don't have to stab an animal to play a video game? At this point I don't think you're taking this seriously. And if you are ... if you had to stab an animal to play a video game then you shouldn't play that game.

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IEatSilberCrayons t1_j4f7ytj wrote

You're missing his point.

The generation of that energy causes death. Birds killed by windmills. Habitat destruction to extract lithium, cobalt, oil, gas, coal, manganese, etc. Pollution to process that raw material into usable fuels or equipment to generate and distribute that energy. Massive amounts of destruction and death for the animals in that wake.

Notice, even so called green sources are in this category.

That's not to mention the toxic pollution generated to make the semiconductors in that video game, not the toxins that will leach out if and when it is improperly disposed of.

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shadar t1_j4fq0l7 wrote

Again. Causing incidental harm by existing in modern society is unavoidable. Just because birds might die to a windmill doesn't mean using electricity is equivalent to choosing to breed, raise and slaughter birds for taste pleasure.

You're arguing that because toxins might leak from some computer component, you may as well stab puppies in the neck for the yum yums.

Around 80 billion animals are murdered every year, participation of which is perfectly avoidable by not buying their dead bodies. That's not even counting the billions more killed from habitat loss. Animal agriculture is by far the largest driver of species extinction. 80% of Amazon deforestation is from cattle farming. That's true "Massive amounts of destruction and death for the animals in that wake".

"While it is true that some birds die every year by flying into turbine towers or blades, the actual numbers are negligible." https://us.orsted.com/renewable-energy-solutions/offshore-wind/seven-facts-about-offshore-wind/birds

Also, I don't see why we can't work to reduce such incidental harms where we are able.

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