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whiffling_waterfowl t1_j0jx5h8 wrote

We already knew deer could get it. What I didn't know is that there are apparently deer in NYC?!

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mienaikoe t1_j0k2oti wrote

Probably the parks in far bronx and queens. There’s some real gems of greenery out there!

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cbomba t1_j0l1zwf wrote

Nahhh these are urban deer. They spend a huge amount of time walking on asphalt and such, not just grass

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mad0666 t1_j0kxtbp wrote

There’s coyotes in Central Park!

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Very_Bad_Janet t1_j0nx7rl wrote

I've seen hawks in the East Village and raccoons in Queens. A coworker went on vacation and came back to find a bat in her apartment in the Bronx. And I believe wolves are now being spotted in some of the outer boroughs

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6417725 t1_j0luky9 wrote

Raised in queens my whole life this is news to me too. In Long Island definitely and driving the HH to westchester you’ll see signs warning of deers crossing. I’ve never been to Staten Island (why would I do that to myself)

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CalmWeb8444 t1_j1bhtda wrote

Hey- it’s not a bad place. Nicer than being crammed on top of people and I enjoyed easy access to Manhattan my whole life. The hate for Staten Island is just unnecessary. Anyway, I live here, and I have seen deer in the parks and Greenbelt. I see a few a year, so they are fairly common.

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pete_68 t1_j0nbhch wrote

No kidding. I think we knew like 5 months in that deer get COVID.

And there are deer in the Bronx and Staten Island.

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teridon t1_j0kp57g wrote

Would the human vaccines work on deer and other reservoir species ?

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boooooooooo_cowboys t1_j0m6bib wrote

Probably, but there’s no chance in hell that you’ll actually be able to vaccinate all those wild animals

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ackillesBAC t1_j0m83n9 wrote

Give trank darts filled with vaccine to all the hunters

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GUMBYtheOG t1_j0mftqd wrote

And while you’re at it vaccinate all the hunters

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ackillesBAC t1_j0mfxsu wrote

Don't worry they will end up drunk and shooting eachother in the ass.

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DrSmirnoffe t1_j0rg6oj wrote

Honestly, that's the very first thing that came to mind when I heard about these events. Get rangers out there with dart guns, maybe whip up a vaccine blend that works best for deer.

And I guess maybe add a little tranq in there so that the rangers can tag the ones they've vaccinated. After all, you don't want to waste darts on a buck who's already had the shot.

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amethystwyvern t1_j0lm3ib wrote

I've always thought that the deer around here in upstate NY have figured out that if they chill near people they're safe. Same with some of the Turkeys. There is a turkey near my work that just hangs out around the roundabout. People must look out for it, somehow it's still alive.

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Culprit89 t1_j0md0s2 wrote

Liverpool here. See this all the time up at Old Forge.

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amp1212 t1_j0mts48 wrote

There are other recent publications reporting the same thing- this one is from Texas

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>Free-ranging white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus) across the United States are increasingly recognized for infection and transmission of SARS-CoV-2. Through a cross-sectional study of 80 deer at three captive cervid facilities in central and southern Texas, we provide evidence of 34 of 36 (94.4%) white-tailed deer at a single captive cervid facility seropositive for SARS-CoV-2 by neutralization assay (PRNT90), with endpoint titers as high as 1,280. In contrast, all tested white-tailed deer and axis deer (Axis axis) at two other captive cervid facilities were seronegative, and SARS-CoV-2 RNA was not detected in respiratory swabs from deer at any of the three facilities. These data support transmission among captive deer that cannot be explained by human contact for each infected animal, as only a subset of the seropositive does had direct human contact. The facility seroprevalence was more than double of that reported from wild deer, suggesting that the confined environment may facilitate transmission.
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>Roundy, Christopher M., et al. "High seroprevalence of SARS-CoV-2 in white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus) at one of three captive cervid facilities in Texas." Microbiology Spectrum 10.2 (2022): e00576-22.

Cervids generally are a bit worrisome as potential hosts for reservoir populations and spillover. One of the more notable diseases common to cervids and humans are elk and BSE,

Otero, Alicia, et al. "Chronic wasting disease: a cervid prion infection looming to spillover." Veterinary Research 52.1 (2021): 1-13.

I doubt that there's anything particular about cervid biology -- more likely its the large numbers of animals and their mobility. Interesting about the different seroprevalence in the Texas populations. . . a big difference in the New York vs Texas populations is that the NY were free ranging and the Texas were not . . .

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D3adlywithap3n t1_j0mpumv wrote

Social distance from wild deer.

Mask up on nature trails.

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jkblvins t1_j0kgv33 wrote

So, is there going to be a cul?

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Sword_Thain t1_j0n93t5 wrote

Covid, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Lyme disease and soon to be possible human prion disease.

Deer are out to get us.

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PorkyMcRib t1_j0mif6u wrote

Just leave the covers off of the manholes. The white crocodiles will come out at night and eat the deer. Problem: solved.

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JhonnyHopkins t1_j0mylnr wrote

Why even spend money studying this? Humans are never getting rid of this virus so who cares about a reservoir species??

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SantaClausInflation t1_j0kdfwt wrote

It s a publication from a dodgy publisher.... enuf said!

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sids99 t1_j0jzz5l wrote

Oh boy, something probably innocuous to scare people.

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ShimmerFaux t1_j0k5a6h wrote

There’s nothing innocuous about this, we knew it was a thing because it’s actually likely that SARS was infectious to camels.

We knew that years ago, though we still haven’t traced the full source for SARS.

Finding out that SARS-Cov-2 infected other vertebrates in close proximity to a large human populace just means we need to take more aggressive steps to eradicate a possible pool.

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ktappe t1_j0k8bw8 wrote

We already knew that Whitetail deer had Covid at least 18 months ago. It wasn’t just theorized. It is the main reason why we know that we cannot eradicate the disease; because it’s already gotten outside the human population.

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apathetic_panda t1_j0kiqx7 wrote

It originated outside of humans. We haven't tracked spread among livestock.

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IcyDay5 t1_j0k7p30 wrote

Look around. The entire global population is the pool

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FraseraSpeciosa t1_j0lcxo5 wrote

Yeah like who is even talking about eradication now? How would you even do that. Slaughter any deer within a mile of a town? Doesn’t make sense

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ShimmerFaux t1_j0mffg6 wrote

Actually,

It’s one of the few defenses we have that does work.

When avian influenza strains hit, it’s how we control it. It seems less likely to work in a cervine population, but the herds in new york cannot be that big. Couple hundred members at the absolute most. Probably less.

It seems more sad, and certainly harder because no one wants to be the guy who shot bambi’s mom. But were dealing with something that has the possibility to mutate rapidly, spread easier than hot butter, and affects all vertebrate animals.

The rat population would be much much much harder to curtail in a city the size of new york.

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BlondeMomentByMoment t1_j0llws2 wrote

Maybe people could, you know, get vaccinated? Just a wild idea to improve survival rates and diminish suffering.

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FraseraSpeciosa t1_j0lqkxg wrote

Who said was advocating against that? I’m just saying there is no way to eradicate Covid from any kind of animal reservoir whether that be human or not. Vaccinations are the only thing we have that works, but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking the virus can’t mutate away from the current vaccine, something which Covid existing in different animal populations, especially populations near humans, will make more likely.

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BlondeMomentByMoment t1_j0lwar0 wrote

I didn’t say anything to suggest you are opposed to that idea.

Maybe I should’ve made it clearer I was being sarcastic. Viruses mutate. It’s why we are now dealing with an endemic virus rather than a pandemic. As we’ve done with influenza.

Non offense meant.

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