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AllanfromWales1 t1_ix7sgex wrote

Reply to comment by gizahnl in A 20 mph speed limit intervention implemented at city centre scale had little impact on short- or long-term outcomes for road traffic collisions, casualties and speed. by _DeanRiding

Certainly more effective in lowering speeds, but not necessarily less dangerous. Trees closer to the roads, for instance, mean less time to see if a child runs out into the road.

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gizahnl t1_ix7v3zh wrote

Not that close ;) It's more to give a much stronger sense of motion when you're driving and trees are swoosh-swooshing past. It makes you feel you go fast, while without you'd speed up.
Streets where kids are likely to pop up on the street usually are woon-erf. Speeds limited to 15kph, ped priority /everywhere/ (i.e. allowed to walk & play anywhere on the street) and a different layout that further inhibits speeding.

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