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0comment t1_j8lfncl wrote

It’s not so great for any of our existing economic systems though. Just like capitalism, socialism also relies on the right kind of population growth. Ie you need enough working adults to outnumber every other demographic. To keep this going, you need enough children. The reality is that the retired elderly is about to outnumber every other demographic. Our social safety nets in capitalism and socialism can only work if we can lower the number of retired elderly, or completely end programs like social security and Medicare.

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lurker1101 t1_j8nn8h5 wrote

> Ie you need enough working adults to outnumber every other demographic

or corporations to pay their fair share of taxes

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0comment t1_j8ogh7b wrote

The research behind birth rate decline accounts for socioeconomic factors ie it doesn’t matter if economy is great and everyone is earning well. The birth rate will still decline due to something that happened with industrialization. The only countries that aren’t seeing this yet are in central Africa.

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Dr_Kintobor t1_j8mc77q wrote

Ok so i have a solution. We kill everyone once they turn 65/ stop being productive workers, and then we process them into protein bars. Like a Soylent Logan's Run. I never said it was a nice solution, but it would solve aging demographics and world hunger at the same time.

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jnelsoni t1_j8nqoyr wrote

Or maybe we can just let young people have fun and eat free for a few years, then ship them out to biodynamic farms where they can work the soil by hand, utilizing no machinery or chemicals until death. The middle -aged can pull hand carts carrying produce to urban markets. Everyone has their ration cards and gets to eat, but labor is divided such that everyone gets a chance to have fun to the best of their ability in the pain-free years of life, and graduates to working closer to the land. When death comes it is usually closer to agricultural fields or in them, so less work needs to be done to move the bodies to the compost piles that fertilize the fields. In this way we can avoid directly eating people, but we would all still be cycled into food via soil inputs. If we did it without violence and guns, it would be more like the Smurfs than the Khmer Rouge.

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