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pretzel_enjoyer t1_j6ijna6 wrote

25th Street is such a strange place. It's a crumbling no-man's land (thanks, CSX) that cleaves off a part of the neighborhood. It could be a cool piece of infrastructure that moves more than just coal and trash trains, but what we get is a really, really dangerous street that doesn't work for anyone.

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sureskinsoldier t1_j6j89aw wrote

honest question, does CSX only haul coal and trash? i never paid much attention to what company a train was but at least in bartrams area (obviously a different area) i've understood there is a lot more than coal and trash. i assume that's why there are armed individuals around some freight trains.

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pretzel_enjoyer t1_j6j8xxr wrote

Oh not at all I just personally only notice the train when it's full of trash (smell) or coal (very distinctive cars). Pure confirmation bias on my part. Plus the idea is that the viaduct could provide more than just rail freight by using a covered street for things like a bike/walking path that is sheltered, market stalls, or some other novel use that improves quality of life. Not saying it has to do any of these things, only that they are within the realm of possibility once CSX and the city can come to an agreement about who maintains what on this stretch.

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sureskinsoldier t1_j6jaz6t wrote

yeah it's weird. as i understand it, they take great care of bridges so the trains keep running, so 25th is probably (?) structurally ok except it is crumbling underneath. i remember watching a trailer snag and pull the net from under the bridge at washington and grays

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pretzel_enjoyer t1_j6jc3be wrote

Yeah it's probably ok for trains* but the CSX operators certainly do not give a crap about the cars parked underneath.

*the news cycle around rail carriers and their unions has made me question any carrier's dedication to quality, so maybe it's not ok for trains who know.s

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sureskinsoldier t1_j6jgfhw wrote

i don't see why the operators would. i don't know their route but i wouldn't think of cars underneath a (assuming) small stretch of their journey. and yeah i would assume that goes back to the apparently crappy rail industry.

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plopous t1_j6iy2vm wrote

There are nets to catch falling debris under every part of that viaduct. Someone's going to get killed before they finally do something about it.

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CB_700_SC t1_j6l753d wrote

Csx who I think owns it is run by a board looking just for profit in the short term. It’s all about penny pinching. They will not fix it until they have to. The installation of Netting was probably forced on them. If you do a 311 report for unsafe conditions on the falling debris dangers they will put more net up or maybe start to fix it.

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c0lin268 t1_j6kxkkt wrote

It’ll just sit forever. Our city leaders and septa does not care abt having good public infrastructure like transit. Septa needs to be rebuilt company wise from the ground up

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dandykaufman2 t1_j6jfm59 wrote

I don't know exactly what should be done, but this area can be better than this for sure. I saw a survey about putting two way bike lanes.

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Present-Ad8894 t1_j6imz02 wrote

Would be great if Philadelphia had the balls to stand up to CSX re: fixing this mess. It's such an eyesore and everyone's brain breaks when trying to drive down and across 25th

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Clarence_Beeks76 t1_j6is0i1 wrote

I was over there a few months back and saw a bunch of new construction condos or whatever. Such a bizarre sight. Does anyone know what occupancy in those is like?

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