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Robert_A_Bouie t1_j0nuxmt wrote

Reply to comment by GroundbreakingArt248 in This sounds crazy but as of yesterday, we are less than 5 months away from the PA primary and the winner of the mayoral race will be the 100th mayor of the city of Philadelphia. November is an afterthought. The more candidates that run, the winner may snag it with just a one percent difference. by joeltheprocess76

Why not just register Democrat?

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GroundbreakingArt248 t1_j0nvct5 wrote

The local Democratic Party is an embarrassment of corruption and ineptitude and I want no part of it.

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Robert_A_Bouie t1_j0nw2iw wrote

Well then I'm sorry but your best course if action is to register Democrat and vote for the candidate that best suits your interests. Wishing for open primaries and ranked voting will get you nowhere unless you can elect Democrats who will push for those changes.

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Strange-Fee-1437 t1_j0qgy8t wrote

Exactly. Progressives want changes but are blind to the fact that changes are more easily made from within. The progressive council people who were elected fully understand this. Their constituents are slow to comprehend.

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GroundbreakingArt248 t1_j0nxxr9 wrote

Our local Democrats would never support open primaries or ranked choice voting because it would diminish their power. It doesn’t matter anyway because those changes would need to be made at the state, not municipal, level.

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Robert_A_Bouie t1_j0ny8lo wrote

Ok, just sit on the sideline and complain then.

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GroundbreakingArt248 t1_j0o00uc wrote

I’m not sitting on the sideline, I actively oppose the local Democrats at every available opportunity. I hope you enjoy perpetuating a single party government and all of the corruption that comes with it.

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Robert_A_Bouie t1_j0o1pkd wrote

Philly is a one party town and has been since the late 50's. Maybe someday you'll realize that the only way to make changes is from within. The current crop of mayoral candidates is actually eclectic. I have to think that there's one candidate that checks most of your boxes. You can register D and vote for them or hope that they win in May and then you can vote for them in November when it will be uncontested.

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explorewithdora t1_j0olx9t wrote

Completely disagree with your argument that the only way to make changes is from within. Major shifts in history rarely happened from people playing nice and playing by existing rules.

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AbsentEmpire t1_j0uakau wrote

It's certainly not coming from removing yourself from effectively participating in the election.

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ERPoppop t1_j0oifjl wrote

i'd guarantee you that nearly every democrat agrees with your assessment regarding corruption and big city politics.

but pretending that dynamic would change with the leadership swapping political parties is pure copium, especially in the context of the current national and local GOP platforms, which are comprised solely of

  1. resorting to childish contrarianism to own the libs; and
  2. resorting to item 1 to avoid the responsibility that accompanies having actual fleshed out policy positions

nobody likes corruption except for the people directly benefiting from it (i.e., not most voters, including democrats). why not fight to end corruption in politics instead of pretending it's coming from a singular source?

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GroundbreakingArt248 t1_j0p9l8h wrote

I never said or even implied the dynamic would change if the GOP was in charge of Philadelphia. Our city council has a veto proof Democratic majority and zero interest in reform and that’s a major problem. We need a real opposition, not the WFP pretending they’re not Democrats while voting in lockstep with them at every available opportunity. The two Republicans we have on council aren’t much help. David Oh SOMETIMES stands up to the majority but O’Neill is just short of useless.

Nationwide the two party system we have is the source of many of our problems. Open primaries and ranked choice voting would help break their stranglehold on power by allowing third parties and independents a real chance at being elected.

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The3rdRepublic t1_j0ooj8n wrote

U r right about the first part, and all these people who are down voting u for that are dumbass

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AbsentEmpire t1_j0uaf48 wrote

Ya it's incompetent, corrupt, and running the city into the ground. However until open primaries and or ranked choice voting get approved in PA you're intentionally removing yourself from voting for any reform on ill-founded moral superiority.

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